Yep, but one will often see it written (quite probably not technically/legally correctly) without the "My Name T/A" bit.
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Kind Regards, John
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The NICEIC & NAPIT sites will only show electricians that are in their scheme. there are other schemes too.
All electricians that are registered to CPS should be found here
http://www.electricalcompetentperson.co.uk/
you can search by his postcode to make it easier.
If he’s not there he shouldn’t be going notifiable work. If he says he’s an NICEIC electrician and he isn’t then get on to NICEIC (or whoever). They live busting people who misrepresent themselves.
I rather feel you might not see him again…
All electricians that are registered to CPS should be found here
http://www.electricalcompetentperson.co.uk/
you can search by his postcode to make it easier.
If he’s not there he shouldn’t be going notifiable work. If he says he’s an NICEIC electrician and he isn’t then get on to NICEIC (or whoever). They live busting people who misrepresent themselves.
I rather feel you might not see him again…
I think this picture confirms that your electrician is 'not the best'.
While it may be functional, this sloppy, untidy display reflects the damage done to your walls.
To be fair to your electrician, you did say you would repair the damage, and if all your walls were solid brick you would have lots of chases to fill.
But I do think some of the holes were unnecessary, and he could have patched the holes with bits of plasterboard as a gesture of goodwill.
All in all his work is a bit rough to say the least, obviously inexperienced or doesn't care.
Looks pretty poor for a Fresh board to say the least, can you take one more photo of the bottom of that Board? Would like to see the cable entry points.
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I expected holes, I told him I would patch them up. I didn't expect the sockets moving a foot higher, leaving holes where the old ones were. I also expected the other holes to be cut with "reasonable care and skill" as described in The Consumer Rights Act 2015. An untrained chimp can just knock the s**t out of the wall with a hammer. So I totally accept that I needed to do some filling. It's just the excessive amount of holes, the manner they've been made and the other damage. He just didn't care, as long as he got his job done.
He says his insurance company won't pay for the decking if it was rotten and unsafe. I said it was discoloured and slippery, hence the previous owners putting artificial grass in it but it was perfectly safe to walk on prior to his mates dumping the van on it. We happily walked on it several times a day but we won't walk on it now. He's offered to fit wired smoke alarms where the old lights were so the ceiling patterns go around those or his insurance company would pay for the holes to be filled but they won't match the existing pattern.
So for all the damage, we either get 2 smoke alarms to hide the damage or a bit of caulk squirted into a couple of holes.
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That’s appalling and potentially very dangerous. the main feed tails into the CU do not have a grommet.
he has just brought the tails through a rough bare metal hole. in time it is likely that the rough metal will saw through the meter tails and wham bam melted consumer unit/fire/arc eye if you are looking at it.
Do not accept this. Report him to his CPS (if he is even a member)
also bad, for a new installation to have the cables coming from the bottom open like that. Did you agree to that?, anyone with a bit of sense would have them boxed in - maybe even a large bit of plastic trunking.
as they are, the cables must be supported. Clipped or cleated. The weight of the cables will try and pull themselves out of the CU.
he has just brought the tails through a rough bare metal hole. in time it is likely that the rough metal will saw through the meter tails and wham bam melted consumer unit/fire/arc eye if you are looking at it.
Do not accept this. Report him to his CPS (if he is even a member)
also bad, for a new installation to have the cables coming from the bottom open like that. Did you agree to that?, anyone with a bit of sense would have them boxed in - maybe even a large bit of plastic trunking.
as they are, the cables must be supported. Clipped or cleated. The weight of the cables will try and pull themselves out of the CU.
I was expecting to comment the CU was appalling...
The 10&16mm² links seem a bit strange but I don't know the BG units so this may be what they supply.
Apart from the lack of grommit mentioned elsewhere the other thing is a bit much copper showing in a couple of places.
Overall it's a bit scruffy [and to steal W2's term lazy]. But that's actually not too bad by todays standards.
EDIT: I've realised there's more pics... Taylor has already correctly commented there.
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He said we could have the cable come in at the back but he would cause a lot of damage to the other side of the wall (which is about 1" thick anyway) or he could have them come up through the floor like that for me to box in at a later day.
And he's not listed on https://www.competentperson.co.uk/ or any of the other places.
And he's not listed on https://www.competentperson.co.uk/ or any of the other places.
If he is not on the CPS register you will need to ask him how he will be notifying the work.
If he is not a registered electrician he should have
Notified the LABC before starting work
Paid their fee - usually £2-300 quid
Agreed with them that he had a suitable level of competence to be able to design, install and test the installation to BS7671. Or agree with them that they (LABC) would inspect the work at various stages and that they could test the whole.
Sounds like you need an interesting meeting with him. Don’t pay any more money.
If he is not a registered electrician he should have
Notified the LABC before starting work
Paid their fee - usually £2-300 quid
Agreed with them that he had a suitable level of competence to be able to design, install and test the installation to BS7671. Or agree with them that they (LABC) would inspect the work at various stages and that they could test the whole.
Sounds like you need an interesting meeting with him. Don’t pay any more money.
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I would write him a letter explaining that you are extremely unhappy with the quality of his work, the damages he caused etc....
I would tell him that you have been advised by qualified electricians that his work does not meet current 18th edition regulations on several counts, not least the re-siting of the accessories that is not covered by any regulation, that it is only for new-builds but even then it is only advisory.
Ask him to quote regulations that back up his installation decisions.
Advise him you are not prepared to pay another penny to him and that you will be contacting the CAB, Trading Standards, the CPS and the local press to highlight his wrong-doings.
If you feel brave, you could then advise him that you will be proceeding to bring a case to the small claims court, but you would need to give him an opportunity to rectify the issues before doing this. Whether you want to let this cowboy back into your house is another thing.
I am assuming your losses exceed the amount you have withheld from him?
I would tell him that you have been advised by qualified electricians that his work does not meet current 18th edition regulations on several counts, not least the re-siting of the accessories that is not covered by any regulation, that it is only for new-builds but even then it is only advisory.
Ask him to quote regulations that back up his installation decisions.
Advise him you are not prepared to pay another penny to him and that you will be contacting the CAB, Trading Standards, the CPS and the local press to highlight his wrong-doings.
If you feel brave, you could then advise him that you will be proceeding to bring a case to the small claims court, but you would need to give him an opportunity to rectify the issues before doing this. Whether you want to let this cowboy back into your house is another thing.
I am assuming your losses exceed the amount you have withheld from him?
Further to TTC's post, One of the above should have been used for the Tails just to arm you with some info and something similar for the T&E cables.
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I've asked him who he will be notifying the work to and he says:
"We have a QS with Napit as we use a Qs so it's less work or worst case sinario which we have only have had to do once is pay the council £50 but it only costs £2 with are Qs but we do these in bulk but that doesn't effect you."
"We have a QS with Napit as we use a Qs so it's less work or worst case sinario which we have only have had to do once is pay the council £50 but it only costs £2 with are Qs but we do these in bulk but that doesn't effect you."
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I believe a company may have one QS - in the office - who signs all the certificates from all the electricians employed by the company without actually doing any supervising - if it is still the same
I believe a company may have one QS - in the office - who signs all the certificates from all the electricians employed by the company without actually doing any supervising - if it is still the same
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