The Chinese flu outbreak .......wonder why there's panic ?

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Mottie said:
I wonder if it’s anything to do with the fact that the Chinese will eat literally any living creature?
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Is this a new thing? Because if not, why has it only happened? Sounds like the old blame the foreigners for being different trick is back again.

Why do people die of flu in England, is it because of all weird Asian leaves mixed cow milk they drink?

In all seriousness, they still don't know how it started. Bats was suggested but being ruled out, now snakes maybe, but could still be fish. Who knows? Gerbils caused the black death and bubonic plague, killing about 50 million Europeans, but that doesn't seem to deter people keeping them in their homes. Bloody filthy scum pet owners!
 
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live animal markets, bush meat and animal parts from endangered species is very much the norm in China, I would think there is a big connection between this and these viruses that jump from animals to humans.
 
Munroist said:
live animal markets, bush meat and animal parts from endangered species is very much the norm in China, I would think there is a big connection between this and these viruses that jump from animals to humans.
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This.

Keeping normally disparate species in very close proximity to each other, then encouraging humans to mingle among them, is a ready way to ease the shift, small mutation by small mutation, between a number of species until it ends at humans.
 
jonbey said:
Is this a new thing? Because if not, why has it only happened? Sounds like the old blame the foreigners for being different trick is back again.
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Well, it did start off in a live food market. What other conclusions can you come to?
 
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But why only now? Or are live food markets a totally new thing?

Better stay away from big pet shops too, lots of different live animals in cages there too...
 
jonbey said:
But why only now? Or are live food markets a totally new thing?.
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Could be co-incidence/bad luck/lack of hygiene/criminality. How do all things like this start? It only takes one infected wild animal to be brought in and off it goes. Happens over here too. https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/12363329.the-butcher-who-lied/

jonbey said:
Better stay away from big pet shops too, lots of different live animals in cages there too...
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What, dirty animals brought in from the wild in large numbers for food with no care for their welfare and rammed into cages with practically no room between them? I think not.
 
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Started in bats?

"As a new coronavirus spreads in China and around the world, scientists are scrambling to find out exactly where it came from. Now, a new study provides more clues to the virus' origins, and points to bats as the most likely hosts."

"In the study, published today (Jan. 29) in the journal The Lancet, the researchers analyzed 10 genome sequences of the novel coronavirus, dubbed 2019-nCoV, obtained from nine patients in China who were sick with the virus.

They found that all 10 of the genome sequences were extremely similar — they shared more than 99.98% of the same genetic sequence, the authors said. This suggests the virus made its "jump" to humans very recently, because if that jump had happened long ago, the virus sequences would have differed more, given the fast rate at which viruses tend to mutate and evolve."



"Despite emerging in humans only recently, the virus has already infected about 6,000 people and caused 132 deaths in China, while spreading to 15 other countries, according to the World Health Organization. Most of the initial cases occurred in people who worked at or visited the Huanan seafood market in Wuhan, China, where a variety of wild animals were sold."
 
these viruses that jump from species to species are incredibly unlikely to ever happen, the chances must be billions upon billions to one, but if you put vast amounts of live animals into super densely populated areas then at some point these rare events will happen.

Plagues of any species never last long, disease and starvation is usually the limiting factor
 
Typical Chinese Tbh they are all fck Ed up.

If it walks, swims or crawls they will. Eat it

Dogs cats live embryos in eggs Bush meat

No standards
 
Brigadier said:
A billion of them think we're the strange ones......it's all about perspective
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'Tis true...

Travel to what we call the 'third world' and a lot of people are disgusted at the amount of hawking and spitting on the streets...
(A chav trait in the UK as well I admit)

But is it better to snot into a rag and put that rag into your pocket?

As you say, it is perspective!
 
Chinese Live animal.markdts were horrendous cruelty is the norm
Cats and dogs writh in terror as they are bludgeoned
Hi g by there tails and skinned
Many are still conscious and forced to endure every secind of this cruelty

It's estimated that hundreds of thousands of dogs are killed every year and at least 2 million cats

Shi* country populated by be** ends

Country should go on lock down no one in. No one out let em drop like flies
 
Interesting about the youngsters.

www.ft.com

"Myles McCormick 8 hours ago

Clarity on virus begins to emerge from fresh scientific research

Clive Cookson, Science Editor, reports:

Several Chinese research groups have recently released analyses of the new coronavirus epidemic. These begin to provide a more secure scientific understanding on which to base policy, though there are still many uncertainties.

The most comprehensive paper, published online today by the New England Journal of Medicine comes from the Chinese Centre for Disease Control and Prevention in Beijing. It analyses the first 425 confirmed cases in Wuhan and concludes that the mean incubation period was 5.2 days. “Our preliminary estimate for the incubation period distribution provides important evidence to support a 14-day medical observation period or quarantine for exposed persons,” the researchers say.

Perhaps the most striking finding is that, while about half the cases were in people aged over 60, there was not a single case recorded in a child under 15. The researchers say it is not clear whether children are less likely than adults to be infected or whether they show milder symptoms.

The CCDC team calculates that the reproductive number – the average number of people infected by each patient – was 2.2. That is lower than some other studies, including one posted online by a different Chinese group, which puts the reproductive number at 4.08. The higher the number, the harder it will be to stop the epidemic."
 
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