EU considering A217 Association Agreement approach

Notch7 · 30 Jan 2020

Ordinarily the Commission doesn't propose a legal basis for an agreement with a 3rd country until it's clear where it's going in terms of the scope of the relationship. The fact the EU is moving early here shows both its level of preparedness and concern about these talks

our politicians use vague assurances to twist things to their own ends, so EU wants to pin them down legally from the start. Our politicians will not be able to cope with this and things will go rapidly downhill

Leavers wont understand a word, so will resort to screaming "we won"

fillyboy · 30 Jan 2020

Notch7 said:
Leavers wont understand a word, so will resort to screaming "we won"

I disagree, I'm more inclined to say 'you lost' rather than 'we won'.

Mottie · 30 Jan 2020

Notch7 said:
Ordinarily the Commission doesn't propose a legal basis for an agreement with a 3rd country until it's clear where it's going in terms of the scope of the relationship. The fact the EU is moving early here shows both its level of preparedness and concern about these talks

fillyboy · 30 Jan 2020

Notch7 said:
our politicians use vague assurances to twist things to their own ends, so EU wants to pin them down legally from the start. Our politicians will not be able to cope with this and things will go rapidly downhill

Depends on your viewpoint.
If you're saying our politicians will twist things to suit our own countries ends, of course they will, I would be disappointed if they didn't.

By going downhill rapidly I assume you refer to a possibility of 'no deal', again, it has to be on the table to secure a reasonable trade agreement.

Why are you so hell bent on just surrendering and accepting 'their' terms.

Mottie · 30 Jan 2020

fillyboy said:
Why are you so hell bent on just surrendering and accepting 'their' terms.

Maybe he's part French?

^woody^ · 31 Jan 2020

We won

SirGalahad · 31 Jan 2020

^woody^ said:
We won

Award for vassalage.

SirGalahad · 31 Jan 2020

fillyboy said:
Depends on your viewpoint.
If you're saying our politicians will twist things to suit our own countries ends, of course they will, I would be disappointed if they didn't.

By going downhill rapidly I assume you refer to a possibility of 'no deal', again, it has to be on the table to secure a reasonable trade agreement.

Why are you so hell bent on just surrendering and accepting 'their' terms.

No it depends if you can think. RWR cannot.

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...st-in-trade-talks-says-kim-darroch-ambassador
said it was doubtful whether the UK had the resources for parallel negotiations with the US and the EU, a strategy championed by Downing Street as a way to give British negotiators leverage in Brussels.

impossible” for a deal to get through Congress by the end of 2020 and that it appeared to be “a narrow and rocky path to get to where they [the UK government] want to be”.

They also want us to pay the same for American pharmaceuticals as they pay in their own market. Do they want us to pay more for their pharmaceuticals? Do the pharmaceutical companies want to use this leverage? Of course they do.”

But you are going to have to make a choice between whether you go for European standards and rules and all the rest of it, or whether you go in some areas with American ones … I can see the logic. But it is going to be a hell of job just in terms of sucking up resources. We have not done trade negotiations for 40 years. It is also going to be an electoral year in America and I don’t quite see how that is going to work.”

Notch7 · 31 Jan 2020

fillyboy said:
Depends on your viewpoint.
If you're saying our politicians will twist things to suit our own countries ends, of course they will, I would be disappointed if they didn't.

By going downhill rapidly I assume you refer to a possibility of 'no deal', again, it has to be on the table to secure a reasonable trade agreement.

Why are you so hell bent on just surrendering and accepting 'their' terms.

No, the EU dont trust Johnson. Nor should you

No deal just front loads economic shock on the UK -not good for Boris Johnson, he just wants power.

Its not a case of me surrendering, its a case of you believing in 'cake and eat it' soundbites.

ellal · 31 Jan 2020

fillyboy said:
I disagree, I'm more inclined to say 'you lost' rather than 'we won'.

We all lost!

Dangee · 31 Jan 2020

I didn't

Brigadier · 31 Jan 2020

fillyboy said:
Why are you so hell bent on just surrendering and accepting 'their' terms.

Mottie said:
Maybe he's part French?

Nah; he's just royally hacked off that he's fecked up, and has to just impotently look on at the mess he's contributed to.

To quote him, "own it".

Notch7 · 31 Jan 2020

Brigadier said:
Nah; he's just royally hacked off that he's fecked up, and has to just impotently look on at the mess he's contributed to.

To quote him, "own it".

Its a fool that doesnt learn from his own mistakes, but it takes a total idiot that cant learn from others.

Ryler · 31 Jan 2020

Notch7 said:
Its a fool that doesnt learn from his own mistakes,

Remaoners would rejoin the eu in the morning. Fools abound.

transam · 31 Jan 2020

Well come tonight we will. Be out

Free at last thank god almighty we are free at last ( Martin Luther King

)

EU considering A217 Association Agreement approach

Similar threads