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pete50 said:
Someone on here in an earlier post mentioned about dying in a hospital bed gasping for breath.
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If it is all the same with you,I would rather not be lieing in a hospital bed this time next week with a bag over my head trying to breathe under water....If it does not bother you, or seeing your loved ones like that...Fine.AND...I do watch out for the bus...Always....Bit trickier with COVID
 
IT Minion said:
Edit: this rant is not really aimed at you.

One in a hundred dying (in addition to normal in a short time) is quite a lot. But if it were just those 1% dropping dead that'd only be 500,000 or so Brits dead. However it isn't just 1 in 100 getting sick and dying. Around 8% need to be admitted to hospital.

That's 4,000,000 people needing to go to hospital above normal. We have around 140,000 beds. Even if the rest of the country stopped being ill for any reason during the time there wouldn't be anywhere near enough beds. At that point you have much higher death rates from Covid-19 as people who could be saved with minor treatment can't get it, so they die.

Then because there isn't enough beds people with other illnesses die.

Then because NHS staff get infected and have to go off sick, or have died, there isn't enough staff. So more patients die.

Then, when people really get scared because people are literally dying in the streets the really bad **** kicks off.

If you do nothing then the results will be biblical. If you do a little then they'll be terrible. You have to go over the top or it gets out of control insanely fast.

Could it be terrible? Absolutely. Will it be, probably not, because we're finally taking suitable measures. It's going to be fascinating looking back at places like the UK and US where we dithered and South Korea where they went straight to 11.

It's going to get worse before it gets better. Two or three weeks of the death rate climbing and then perhaps it will start to level and drop.
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An interesting rant all the same. Was talking to my Dad about it tonight he's so flippant talking about when it's all over soon. I said Dad mate this aint over soon, and at your age (nearly 70) things will never be the same (imagine travel insurance etc, fck i woudn't want to travel on a plane at all right now till i know im tested positive) It's a bit of sh't future at the moment, we may well look back at the noughties as the golden years.

Until then someone really needs to come up with some answers i can't believe China's stats according to John Hopkins. And now they seem to be winding down wuhan and implying the only infectious people are the western world!
 
durhamplumber said:
Copd..asthma...
Alsorts....leads to shortness of breath....for a 75 year old COPD sufferer who gets up at 5am everyday walks the dog...does the housework...sews...swims...etc in a day....THAT is what I call a normal life....What is your definition of ""normal"" at 75?????
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Show me a 75 yr old who isn't up at 5am. The rest, unquantified waffle.

Walking the dog - whoopee; hardly the Olympics. An hour to shuffle 200 yds is hardly anything to crow about.

Housework - ditto (especially if you live in a one bed flat, and take all day to do it).

Sew - you're desperate now....

Swims - the pools are full of "never get their hair wet"-types. A minute to swim 25m, a minutes pause, then repeat.


Unquantified bluster.
 
durhamplumber said:
He has a bad heart..not COPD!!
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COPD is a catchall phrase encompassing any number of pulmonary diseases, various heart conditions can have identical symptoms which all boil down to lack of oxygen, both are horrible.
 
Never let anyone say I got in the way of nitpicking. But on the 'normal life' thing I can contribute. I got a diagnosis of Rheumatoid Arthritis after some niggling pain kept building up. I went from a very active person to having crippling pain doing a weekly shop. Meds have brought it under control and I now live a 'normal' life.

I can't run anymore, my grip is pathetic so I can't sail or climb, i get sick easily, I have to take so many pills sometimes I have to do two batches or the urge to chew them is overpowering. It has very little in common with my pre-illness life, it still feels wrong. But it's within the margin of 'Normal'. It's not normal to run a Marathon, now I'm normal. It's not normal to do endurance hiking events, now I'm normal. Normal can be pretty ****.

/SelfPity

But on the plus side, I can now pop to the local shops to get hand soap and toilet roll... Oh, hang on a second!
 
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IT Minion said:
Never let anyone say I got in the way of nitpicking. But on the 'normal life' thing I can contribute. I got a diagnosis of Rheumatoid Arthritis after some niggling pain kept building up. I went from a very active person to having crippling pain doing a weekly shop. Meds have brought it under control and I now live a 'normal' life.

I can't run anymore, my grip is pathetic so I can't sail or climb, i get sick easily, I have to take so many pills sometimes I have to do two batches or the urge to chew them is overpowering. It has very little in common with my pre-illness life, it still feels wrong. But it's within the margin of 'Normal'. It's not normal to run a Marathon, now I'm normal. It's not normal to do endurance hiking events, now I'm normal. Normal can be pretty ****.

/SelfPity

But on the plus side, I can now pop to the local shops to get hand soap and toilet roll... Oh, hang on a second!
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Yep, with you on that and am sorry to hear too your arthritis. Long term illness with me too, limited what I can do and it did stop me doing a few things but it does become the new norm. As long as enjoying life I say, then on a winner :)
 
And to follow up on that, as my disease, and the meds, knacker my immune system I'm at higher risk for Covid-19. If I catch it then I'm more likely to end up in hospital and more likely to need a respirator. And I'm also more likely to have that respirator taken away if someone else needs it as I'm more likely to snuff it.

Arthritis won't kill me, but if I catch Covid-19 and die I'll still be listed under pre existing conditions.
 
sodthisforfun said:
Yep, with you on that and am sorry to hear too your arthritis. Long term illness with me too, limited what I can do and it did stop me doing a few things I always enjoyed but it does become the new norm. As long as enjoying life I say, then on a winner :)
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Sorry to hear you're keeping me company.

Yeah, it could be much much worse. Before medics discovered what drugs could treat the condition it was really really nasty. Now (for me at least) it's just unpleasant.

Also on the plus side it's an always handy excuse for putting off things and watching Netflix. :cool:
 
Normal life :confused:

Dunno

I. Don't think I am Normal :)

Go to work fiddle around with a few cars about it really

Don't go abroad or go on holiday

I am an. Innocent victim of this chinese flu caper

Kin life is going to be tipped upside down by foreigners

Fck it :)
 
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