Fantasia ceiling fan diagnostics

daggermark · 20 Apr 2020

I've got a fantasia ceiling fan/light in my conservatory, which hasn't worked since the day I moved in. I have finally got round to looking into it, and not sure how to go about testing it.

These contraptions have a remote receiver mounted in the ceiling ball. I am fairly sure the remote is knackered as the red light on it never lights up, even with a brand new battery. However, I don't particularly want to buy a new remote (70 sheets!) to find out that there are other faults.

I can check the power is entering the remote receiver from the mains, but past that I am not sure how to verify whether the receiver is faulty. Anyone got any ideas how I might be able to turn it 'on' without a working remote?

Is there any way I can wire the fan directly onto the mains supply without going via the remote receiver? The fan/light expects 3 connections: fan live, fan neutral, and 'light supply'. I am not sure how the light works with only 1 core, but there you go.

chivers67 · 20 Apr 2020

Does the light not work either? I'd have thought it requires a permanent Live for the Fan to be switched if there are no separate switches to manually turn it on? Have you a photo of the Terminals and cable terminations?

AndyPRK · 20 Apr 2020

My fan has only one supply which does the light.

The remote will turn fan on. At 3 speeds and
Turn off and/or dim light.

daggermark · 20 Apr 2020

The light doesn't work either - the remote control seems to be for everything, with no overrides / pull-cords on the fan unit itself. I'll get a photo but in the meantime, this is the remote in question. Blue/brown on the rhs connect to the mains. The 3 on the lhs are marked motor live, motor neutral, light. They connect to corresponding cores on the fan body itself.

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DetlefSchmitz · 20 Apr 2020

It would be helpful to specify which model you have.

daggermark · 20 Apr 2020

Any ideas how I might go about finding that out? I can't see any information on the fan itself, even under the light bulb cover. From looking at their website, it looks very much like a Viper but with halogen rather than LED.

AndyPRK · 20 Apr 2020

If the light doesn’t work when you switch in the wall light and the bulbs good.

Both remote and controller sound faulty

Maybe best to buy a complete new unit.

Or rig it up so the fan is on max
Speed all the time !

daggermark · 20 Apr 2020

If I wired the supply live/neutral directly into the fan live/neutral for testing, do you think I am likely to cause a problem? I doubt there's any kind of transformer in the remote receiver but you never know I guess...

AndyPRK · 20 Apr 2020

As long as you disconnect the fan motor from the controller, I don’t think you have a lot to loose.
Knowing the fan works is only a third of it though.

delmel · 22 Apr 2020

cant beat the good old integral switch, have to say though Fantasia Fans are the best, much better to try and fix, don't replace with a cheap nasty thing you will regret the noise and vibrations if you do.

daggermark · 25 Apr 2020

I chopped the remote receiver out of the circuit today and wired the fan and light direct to the mains. Flipped the light switch and its all working

So looks like I just need a new remote kit.

The 'reverse' switch on the fan body doesn't work (it just makes the fan stop but can still hear the motor buzzing), but I don't really care too much about that.

delmel · 26 Apr 2020

they are the best fan motors surprised its buzzing I am not sure how old yours is. I have one myself which has a little buzz only on full speed but it is over 25 years old and has been well used.

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