2 gang switch wiring different

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Not the cheapest option but was looking at:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product...title_srh_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A2OAJ7377F756P
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Energenie-.../B00V52HTXS/ref=psdc_1938304031_t2_B073VT51RQ

As think these might work, as no neutral wire required, look like same wiring (below) just need to set up a hub too.

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That little bit of white wire could be taking an Earth into the switch to use as a surrogate "Neutral" This could result in a trip of an RCD protecting the circuit.

The CE mark is a counterfeit.
 
That little bit of white wire could be taking an Earth into the switch to use as a surrogate "Neutral" This could result in a trip of an RCD protecting the circuit.

The CE mark is a counterfeit.
First point - fair enough, did wonder why it might be going through as thought you would usually just connected your earth to it.

CE mark counterfeit - surprised as the company are a UK based PLC since 1996 in Oxford.
 
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Still statement stands, surprised as a UK based company they were using counterfeit CE items and still available, and even recommended by many too.
Lots of companies go dormant, they have not been closed down etc.
 
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a dormant company does not ( cannot ) trade.
Correction, a dormant company should not trade. Even if they do, you can only report them to trading standard etc.

Likewise fail to see the relevance to thread, doesn't stop the item being sold that is in circulation, as such I clearly linked to amazon stock, held by amazon, only thing is that if so they were supplying counterfeit CE items.
 
I said the CE mark was counterfeit, why would the manufacturer use a symbol that could be mistaken for a valid CE mark.
 
Its a 1920s build so the other side of the wall is the living room but solid masonry wall.
So is there another switch in the living room back to back with the 2 gang switch, which may have a neutral?
 
At least read the reviews before you spend money on the Energenie one. It may be that you are prepared for the slow response etc. Don't think I would be. Energenie seems to be a trading name for a company in the Netherlands called Gembird.
 
So is there another switch in the living room back to back with the 2 gang switch, which may have a neutral?

There is a switch in a similar position so may well be back to back, I'll check it later when the kids are in bed. Although doubt ill find a neutral as doubt that would have been rewired, but might be lucky.

At least read the reviews before you spend money on the Energenie one. It may be that you are prepared for the slow response etc. Don't think I would be. Energenie seems to be a trading name for a company in the Netherlands called Gembird.
Yeah I have, mainly seems the further away the hub, the slower they are to respond. I can put the hub within 2metres and with nothing blocking it.

I think at this stage drop the smart function and perhaps look at a remote switch instead - think this would be easier? Although ideally needs to be RF as won't be line of sight for IR.
Think that's a different Energenie but could well be.
 
AndreN said:
Hey Mikeyd,
Same circuit? Yes
Good.
AndreN said:
Ceiling rose? No...about 18 LED downlighters.
Junction boxes? No idea they were fitted new with my kitchen 2 years ago.
Bugger..
AndreN said:
Guessing you were going to potentially say about running a neutral? Won't work I guess!
I was hopeful, but not so now. As you currently have 2 permanent lives going to the switch from the same circuit, and your new switch only needs one, the other wire could potentially be changed into a neutral if you get to the other end of either of them, and obviously a neutral is within connecting distance. 18 Downlighters and presumably a nice ceiling makes that hard work though.
AndreN said:
Annoying, my other option is just getting one that works on a remote and not smart enabled I guess and wall mounting the remote somewhere more accessible.
I've got Philips hue bulbs (Other systems are available) throughout my house. Set off with a starter pack of a bridge and 2 bulbs and went from there. Alexa, my phone and Watch can turn any light on or off, and if it doesn't work the old wall switch still over-rides. Sorry if it's going off-topic (Not as much as discussing CE standards) as it doesn't help you. I don't think Philips do anything that switches 18 downlights but as said, other solutions are probably available.
 
Interesting not seen those before, I'll read up how they work as might be an option.

Good.

Bugger..

I was hopeful, but not so now. As you currently have 2 permanent lives going to the switch from the same circuit, and your new switch only needs one, the other wire could potentially be changed into a neutral if you get to the other end of either of them, and obviously a neutral is within connecting distance. 18 Downlighters and presumably a nice ceiling makes that hard work though.

I've got Philips hue bulbs (Other systems are available) throughout my house. Set off with a starter pack of a bridge and 2 bulbs and went from there. Alexa, my phone and Watch can turn any light on or off, and if it doesn't work the old wall switch still over-rides. Sorry if it's going off-topic (Not as much as discussing CE standards) as it doesn't help you. I don't think Philips do anything that switches 18 downlights but as said, other solutions are probably available.
Yeah I was considering smart bulbs but looks very expensive and not sure if they will all sync in one 'group' or not.
 

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