LED to monitor motor

I am NOT wrong. This is what Flamepot said, "That is true"

He agrees with me. Either we are both wrong, or we are both right.

You are deliberately picking on me accusing me of being wrong when I am not. Were you the classroom bully at school?

You say a CMR can not be used to detect a stalled motor. Both flameport and I are telling you that you are wrong.

I will stop telling you that you are wrong when you stop posting wrong information.
 
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Extract from the technical data sheet of a Schneider branded current monitoring relay which you say can not be use to detect a stalled (jammed) motor.
I did NOT say that at all. I said that a stalled motor would still draw current.
 
You say a CMR can not be used to detect a stalled motor. Both flameport and I are telling you that you are wrong.

I will stop telling you that you are wrong when you stop posting wrong information.

I did not say that at all. I said a stalled motor would still draw current. Flameport agreed with me. Only you said I was wrong.
 
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I quoted you saying exactly that in the post above where you now deny it.
 
Not really, I just stated that a stalled motor would still draw current.
No, you didn't "just state that". That statement of yours came after you responded to RF's statement:
You can use a current monitoring relay to tell you if the pump is actually running ...
... with
No you can't.
... which, as you've now been told many times, simply is not correct.

... however, as I've recently written, I would personally favour monitoring water flow (or, at least pressure), since satisfactory electrical behaviour of the pump's motor does not guarantee that satisfactory pumping of water [to the right place(s)] is happening.
 
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All he had to do was say yes it does still take current but then you can use this and link to his CMR. Not add his snide comments about being wrong again. A little politeness goes a long way.
 
All he had to do was say yes it does still take current but then you can use this and link to his CMR. Not add his snide comments about being wrong again. A little politeness goes a long way.
When you stop being wrong we will stop telling you you are wrong.
It's quite simple really, just offer advice you actually know something about. Then there will be no arguements, no criticism, no 'snide comments' and above all no confusion for the OP and they will not be frightened off.
 
All he had to do was say yes it does still take current but then you can use this and link to his CMR. Not add his snide comments about being wrong again.
Well, you were wrong again.

As I see it, the problem was probably that you didn't know what a CMR was (when Flameport referred to it implicitly, and RF explicitly) but, from that position of lack of knowledge, you for some reason made a completely incorrect assertion about the use of a CMR. You might at least have looked up what such a device was before making (incorrect) assertions about them.
 
ou do know that current monitoring relays also operate on over current don’t you?

Flameport is not wrong. Just you.

Calm down

Determining the thresholds for normal running current and for stalled current can be difficult. for some types of motor it is near impossible as stalled current can be very similar to running current.

If monitoring the supply current is the only access to the system then phase angle detection ( current angle against voltage angle ) could be more reliable.

As others have said flow switches and similar ways of monitoring the motor's pump's mechanical output would provide more reliable monitoring of the motor.

Been there, one bodge ( sorry quick fix ) was a microphone and a sound level alarm.
 
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