Downlights - Remove Ceiling Noggins??

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• 23 May 2020

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Hi all
Fitting downlights in my bedroom. Located joists, went between them, drilled hole. Went to other side of room, same spacing, drilled hole, found myself directly in the middle of a noggin (i.e. a small piece of wood running between the joists to support the plasterboard edges).

We've recently had an extension built with the same roof type and no noggins at the edges of the plasterboard.

My question is, can I remove the noggin that I've already drilled in to? I can't see what use it has...

Thanks!

 

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• 23 May 2020

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Difficult to say with seeing a photo.

The noggin might be strenghtening or preventing twist in the joists.

Blup

 

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• 23 May 2020

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Hi
Here's a picture of the noggin. Another picture underneath showing the extension with no noggins at plasterboard edges

blup said:

Difficult to say with seeing a photo.

The noggin might be strenghtening or preventing twist in the joists.

Blup

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• 23 May 2020

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Pics not working.

Just copy and paste or drag to reply box.

 

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• 23 May 2020

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Best not to install downlights in a bedroom. Imagine lying in bed with a spotlight in your eyes.

 

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• 23 May 2020

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Presumably you can get above the ceiling? Put another noggin in as near as possible to the one you want to bin off (that'll help with preventing twist). Just make sure there isn't a restraint strap on the noggin....

 

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• 24 May 2020

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winston1 said:

Best not to install downlights in a bedroom. Imagine lying in bed with a spotlight in your eyes.

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Are you absolutely sure you are not Ban all sheds?

 

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• 24 May 2020

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Ban-All-Sheds has not been around for a while, but I seem to remember this was one thing he and I agreed on.

 

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• 24 May 2020

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PS Downlights look good in show homes but they're less useful in real life unless you have loads of them. Esp in a bedroom or bathroom (where you or your partner might be wanting to put makeup on.....)

 

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Never mind her!! What about when I want to put make-up on??

 

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• 25 May 2020

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securespark said:

Never mind her!! What about when I want to put make-up on??

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I did leave the option open

 

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• 26 May 2020

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winston1 said:

Best not to install downlights in a bedroom. Imagine lying in bed with a spotlight in your eyes.

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You're allowed to have more than one light source in a bedroom, you know.

I don't understand the hatred for downlights. They're a modern, tidy way of throwing a decent amount of light into a room. No, you don't want them on full blast when you're just relaxing in bed or on the sofa, but that's what table lamps are for.

 

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• 26 May 2020

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hcanning said:

I don't understand the hatred for downlights. They're a modern, tidy way of throwing a decent amount of light into a room.

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Some would disagree, although I personally have no hatred of them. I think a lot of those who 'hate them' probably only know of, or think of, narrow-beam-angle 'spotlights' (which are designed NOT to light a whole room), whereas very wide angle ones are now available.

However, I do agree that having a ceiling downlight anywhere near the head end of a bed is bad news when one is lying in bed - so, if there is a downlight in such a position (for when one is not lying in bed), then other light sources are probably needed for when one is in bed!

Kind Regards, John

 

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• 26 May 2020

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JohnW2 said:

Some would disagree, although I personally have no hatred of them. I think a lot of those who 'hate them' probably only know of, or think of, narrow-beam-angle 'spotlights' (which are designed NOT to light a whole room), whereas very wide angle ones are now available.

However, I do agree that having a ceiling downlight anywhere near the head end of a bed is bad news when one is lying in bed - so, if there is a downlight in such a position (for when one is not lying in bed), then other light sources are probably needed for when one is in bed!

Kind Regards, John

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Agreed, that’s what bedside lamps are for and you can then turn on the ceiling lights when you actually want to see what you’re doing.

 

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• 26 May 2020

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hcanning said:

Agreed, that’s what bedside lamps are for and you can then turn on the ceiling lights when you actually want to see what you’re doing.

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Yes. I suppose that it really depends upon how one uses a bedroom. If one primarily uses it for 'being in bed' and 'sitting at a dressing table', then bedside lamps and some sort of lighting in the vicinity of the dressing table may be all one needs (not uncommon in hotels etc.). If one uses the room in a more 'general' sense, then more general lighting (such as downlights) may also be needed. Most of my bedrooms come into the former of those categories, with just a single (not often used) pendant for when more general lighting is needed.

Kind Regards, John