trump clamps down

JohnD · 4 Jun 2020

festive said:
offensive or inappropriate gestures

Trump calling for sportmen to be fired because they quietly and respectfully kneel during the National Anthem

He doesn't like peaceful protest

SirGalahad · 4 Jun 2020

festive said:
So what... you cross the police in the US you get spanked good, how it should be everywhere.

Have you seen the jokes made about our Police no doubt you've seen the classic scene where 1 guy is being chased by about 20 british police all with crappy tasers and truncheons.
Im not saying US states are doing it right but its not just the Police here its the underlying sentiment and levels the public are willing to rebel or break the law too. Time and time over i hear from US people if you don't break the law you have nothing to worry about.
No i don't go to demonstrations and if i was and was told to disperse or get back then i would comply or expect reasonable force, or you then see the police get nasty or the rioters advance to the next level simples. The video of the guys being smashed has been shown on tictoc etc 1000's commenting they were known offenders who stole that car and were looting(im not saying that's defacto as i haven't seen any official comment on this footage)

Don't mess with the police as they are our last line of defence before anarchy. Do you not realise? We must respect that whilst the bad apples need and absolutely must be held to account don't tar them all with the same brush. Which is ironcially what BLM is all about it seems.

Move to the states you would make it as a US officer and enjoy the brutality.

What are you doing here?

Also the US Police do not have a duty to protect you or your property as confirmed by the Supreme court.

Android 07 · 4 Jun 2020

Tigercubrider said:
You realise that those "black teenagers" probably have family ties back to slave capture in the 1800's which means they have ties to the USA older than say, Irish famine survivors (who happen to be white) or the later European immigration of the 1880's and 1900's?

Jesus H! It's such an ignorant statement!!

What I am trying to say is if those kids did such protests in Africa ( regardless of if their parents came, their grandparents came or their ancestors came to the UK or US ) , the police would gun them down and no one would be able to do anything.
In many countries in Africa, civil war still goes on and people die everyday. Where are these kids then? Do Black lives not matter then ? Or does 'Black lives matter' mean 'Black lives matter only if a white mans kills a black person' ?

I am also pssed at celebs jumping on the bandwagon - they are just fanning the flames from their high castles.

JohnD · 4 Jun 2020

festive said:
offensive or inappropriate gestures

Trump calls on his supporters to assault protestors

EFLImpudence · 4 Jun 2020

Android 07 said:
These black teenagers should be grateful they are living in civilized 1st world countries where police and justice system are fair. Police from the African countries where their parents came from are anything but professional.

Accepting what you say as true - police and justice system fair - your flawed logic seems to be that because there are worse places, no improvements need be attempted.

SirGalahad · 4 Jun 2020

Civilised first world countries have functioning healthcare systems where illness does not drive people into bankruptcy and debt.

Android 07 · 4 Jun 2020

I also do not understand why are there protests here and in other countries. Are these people American? lol

festive · 4 Jun 2020

Bobby Dazzler said:
There's the rub.

There it is indeed as I say route the bad apples dont turn it into an exclusive issue.

Android 07 · 4 Jun 2020

EFLImpudence said:
Accepting what you say as true - police and justice system fair - your flawed logic seems to be that because there are worse places, no improvements need be attempted.

Of course, you aim for improvements. You write to your Congressman and encourage others to do the same, go to a park and talk about it in groups. But, you do not take up arms and fight the police, loot shops , burn tires etc. That is when you stop being a protestor and become an anarchist and that is when use of force by the State is justified.

Scarlet Pimpernel · 4 Jun 2020

festive said:
There it is indeed as I say route the bad apples dont turn it into an exclusive issue.

You are aware that in US, the unions protect, and reverse the decisions of Police Chiefs to fire the 'bad apples'?
Even in other countries, rarely are police 'misdemeanors' punished.
I think the protesters do not and are not turning it into an exclusive issue. Quite the reverse, they want it to be an inclusive issue.

JohnD · 4 Jun 2020

festive said:
offensive or inappropriate gestures

Some leaders have more respect than draft-dodger Trump.

JohnD · 4 Jun 2020

festive said:
offensive or inappropriate gestures

Trump insults young woman reporter

IT Minion · 4 Jun 2020

Vinty said:
Was he pinned to the ground because he was black or was he pinned to the ground because he was resisting arrest.

I think you're focusing on the wrong part of 'pinned to the floor and suffocated to death'.

As to your question, find out yourself and let me know please. I'm not your personal Google search engine.

festive · 4 Jun 2020

Bobby Dazzler said:
You are aware that in US, the unions protect, and reverse the decisions of Police Chiefs to fire the 'bad apples'?
Even in other countries, rarely are police 'misdemeanors' punished.
I think the protesters do not and are not turning it into an exclusive issue. Quite the reverse, they want it to be an inclusive issue.

Ignoring the usual patronising reply as you seem to think you're the only one seeing the whole picture which in itself paints yourself with a polarised view.

The moment you mention a colour you are excluding the others, i am not saying for a moment they are not the issue here but to gain inclusive support it's just not the right call imho to me personally it strikes the wrong chords. Ive seen the cartoons of a house on fire etc etc..

EFLImpudence · 4 Jun 2020

Android 07 said:
Of course, you aim for improvements. You write to your Congressman and encourage others to do the same, go to a park and talk about it in groups. But, you do not take up arms and fight the police, loot shops , burn tires etc. That is when you stop being a protestor and become an anarchist and that is when use of force by the State is justified.

You're doing it again.

The problem clearly arose because too few letters have been written.

Half of Congress and the President don't care.

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