Need 4x2 joists, can I use CLS Softwood Studding 100 x 50mm x 3m (4" x 2") NOM PEFC

Alternatively, you could rip down a 125mm to exactly what you need.
 
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Alternatively, you could rip down a 125mm to exactly what you need.
 
ah, the room is 2.9m, sleeper wall in the middle, so 1.45m

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Something wrong there surely. Are you sure they're not 4x3, or on a sleeper wall?. You'd need something like 6x2 for 2.9m. If what you end up with is too tall just notch the bottom of the ends.
Most modern stuff is nominal (100mm) regularised (planed) hence actually smaller.

Good point, I just presumed they were first floor joists so height was fixed. If ground floor then I'd notch something bigger.
 
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what would be the benefit of getting a bigger bit and cutting it down to size myself?
 
WIll see how much the timber yard charges to cut to size for me, sure there'll be somebody happy to make a 4 inch joist for me!
 
For that span 4x2 or 95x47 or whatever will be fine. I'd just pack them up - you might have a timber wall plate on the ends or they'll just be sat on bricks but its highly unlikely to be perfectly level - some thin plywood rectangles with some thin bits of plastic for really fine adjustment. You'll probably need to fill the sides of the pockets with some mortar as well. And, you need to add 100mm for your bearings onto your span length- 2.9+0.1+0.1= 3.1m so you'll need 3.6m lengths (they don't do 3.2). If you need to replace them in halves because you can't get full ones in then it's 2x 1.65m lengths, or 2x 1.6m if you want them to butt up on the sleeper wall so they're straight across the room.
 
I don't follow that. I they were 3.1m they would be longer than the room. I am replacing existing ones that are 2.9m long, I just need the same again.

I guess 95mm with some 5mm ply cut in strips would work - probably cheaper than getting bits made to order.
 
I don't follow that. I they were 3.1m they would be longer than the room. I am replacing existing ones that are 2.9m long, I just need the same again.

I guess 95mm with some 5mm ply cut in strips would work - probably cheaper than getting bits made to order.

So just make sure you've got about 100mm of bearing either end whatever that measures to.
 
If they were 3.1m they would be longer than the room.

cbde is suggesting that they are going into 100mm pockets in the wall of the room.
need to add 100mm for your bearings onto your span length- 2.9+0.1+0.1= 3.1m

Hence 2.9m (width of room) + 0.1m + 0.1m (two pockets in walls) = 3.1m length of wood needed.
SFK
 
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cbde is suggesting that they are going into 100mm pockets in the wall of the room.


Hence 2.9m (width of room) + 0.1m + 0.1m (two pockets in walls) = 3.1m length of wood needed.
SFK

Ah, I see. No pockets.

Plan B - my local timber merchant can't do 100mm finish, but can do 97mm as standard, and cust to lengths for me for easier transport (I think I can get 2.9m in my estate ...).

I could just get a bunch of these 3mm ply offcuts
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3mm-Plyw...b376069fb:g:gosAAOSwr-ZdSWiV&var=553869447269

is there a cheaper shim option though?

Just found these https://www.orbitalfasteners.co.uk/products/3mm-white-flat-plastic-packer-24x100mm-pack-of-100
although these are not solid, so probably no good

would that be better? Seems a bit crazy to put wood on top of bits of plastic, but I guess this is the modern metric world!
 
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Ah, I see. No pockets.

Plan B - my local timber merchant can't do 100mm finish, but can do 97mm as standard, and cust to lengths for me for easier transport (I think I can get 2.9m in my estate ...).

I could just get a bunch of these 3mm ply offcuts
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3mm-Plyw...b376069fb:g:gosAAOSwr-ZdSWiV&var=553869447269

is there a cheaper shim option though?

Just found these https://www.orbitalfasteners.co.uk/products/3mm-white-flat-plastic-packer-24x100mm-pack-of-100
although these are not solid, so probably no good

would that be better? Seems a bit crazy to put wood on top of bits of plastic, but I guess this is the modern metric world!

Anything non compressible will do really, wood, slate, tile etc. I've used plastic packers in the past, worked okay. Or notch a deeper timber.
 
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