Outside PIR lights will not turn off.

Turn off the power to the circuit at the MCB. Remove the single cable from the switch ( the one that is in a terminal on its own )and put it into an insulated terminal block . Turn on the power at the MCB. If the lights now go off ,but will operate as usual by the PIR's ,then the switch is duff. If they come on and stay on then it's a PIR issue.
Thanks Terry.
I did this and the lights stayed on. So it seems its the PIR. Gonna look for a replacement or a new light.
Again ty everyone.
 
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Thanks Terry.
I did this and the lights stayed on. So it seems its the PIR. Gonna look for a replacement or a new light.
Again ty everyone.

Just a thought, as an alternative...

If you were to replace the lamps in the fittings with 3.5W LED versions, it would hardly be worth having them on a PIR at all. Just have them on during the hours of darkness, powered by a daylight sensor switch.

My drive lights are LED on a solar time clock. On at dusk, off at midnight.

Another way, would to simply disable / disconnect the built in PIR's completely, if that is a possibility - then just use the manual switch.
 
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if either side of a doorway, run off just 1 pir, disconnect the suspect pir
Great call Rocky.
Disconnected the damaged one, still the same, disconnected the other one and reconnected the damaged one and they are now running off 1 PIR.
Just gonna cover the damage and see how it goes.
 
If you were to replace the lamps in the fittings with 3.5W LED versions, it would hardly be worth having them on a PIR at all. Just have them on during the hours of darkness, powered by a daylight sensor switch ... My drive lights are LED on a solar time clock. On at dusk, off at midnight.
Whilst that makes sense in terms of running costs (particularly when the cost of buying the PIRs is factored in), (a) neighbours (and 'the planet') are not necessarily impressed with outside lights which are constantly on (even if they go off at, say, midnight) and (b) even if the ('permanently on') lights go off at midnight, most people have PIRs because, rightly or wrongly, they perceive an advantage in having lights which will be triggered by intruders (including, probably primarily, after midnight).

Kind Regards, John
 
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I have other PIR lights, deeper into my drive, for security.
Yes, and similar here, but that complicates (rather than simplifies) things even further (and adds to the up-front costs).

Whether or not it is advantageous to provide intruders with illumination so that they can see what they are doing is perhaps a more debatable question - it might well be better to let them fall into my ponds and get tangled up with the brambles and stinging nettles which proliferate in many parts of my garden :)

Kind Regards, John
 
Great call Rocky.
Disconnected the damaged one, still the same, disconnected the other one and reconnected the damaged one and they are now running off 1 PIR.
Just gonna cover the damage and see how it goes.
It was more temporary to locate the fault, leaving maybe a problem if the total lamp load is now excessive for that pir, it seems at least you found the dodgy pir
 
Some will keep the lights ON if you switch the power off and ON within 3seconds. Try switching the power off and leave it off for say 10seconds .
True, but ...
On/off 4 times then leave for 30 sec, then on again.
Left off overnight via breaker.
Left off for 1 hour via breaker.
replaced both bulbs, not difference.

Kind Regards, John
 
As you may have seen from responses, many of these have there own quirky process of resetting or overiding if you can see the manufacturer on the inside (which is unlikely) it will be the easiest way to confirm the process for this particular one. As regards pir itself they can be sensative and broken lens, spider webs can play havvock with them.
 

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