For those on the SEISS scheme.

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Doesn’t apply to me and most of you probably have had the same info but just got this through automatically from my accountant. Do yourself a favour and keep records - you may need them if and when this is all over in case this or any future government goes on an aggressive tax reclaim.

HMRC CHECKS OF SELF EMPLOYED GRANT CLAIMS

This update is relevant to you if you have claimed a grant from HMRC using the self employment income scheme (SEISS)

We understand that HMRC will be checking these claims at some point in the future. Their guidance advises that you must keep a copy of “all records in line with normal self-employment record keeping requirements including how much you have claimed from SEISS and your claim reference number.” The records must be kept for at least five years after the 31 January tax return deadline or, if later, four years after you submit your tax return.


You must also keep evidence of how your business was adversely affected by coronavirus. HMRC’s latest guidance says you must have records which “demonstrate the nature of the adverse effects to your business operations”.

They state that your evidence could include business accounts showing a reduction in turnover, confirmation of any coronavirus-related business loans you have received, dates your business had to close because of lockdown restrictions, and dates you or your staff couldn’t work because of coronavirus symptoms, shielding or caring responsibilities because of school closures.

HMRC has published examples of what it thinks counts as “adversely affected”, such as having to “scale down or temporarily stop trading because your supply chain has been interrupted, you have fewer or no customers or clients, or your staff are unable to come into work” (the following link will take you to HMRC’s web page regarding this matter).


https://www.gov.uk/guidance/claim-a...ent-income-support-scheme#after-youve-claimed

To ensure that any potential problems with HMRC are avoided, we advise that you make a more detailed record of ANY negative impacts you may have suffered because of the virus situation. That might include not just what has actually happened but also what you expect would have happened but for the crisis. Record jobs you expected to be working on, or customers you expected to have. Record cancellations, or cases where work has been postponed. If you have regular clients, regular contracts, record what you would usually be doing, and what you’d usually be charging but haven’t done so because of the pandemic. Dates, names, addresses and usual charge-out rates etc, will all give credibility to support your case. We would urge you to prepare this information as soon as you can to ensure that your facts are correct and while everything is fresh in your mind.
 
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To ensure that any potential problems with HMRC are avoided, we advise that you make a more detailed record of ANY negative impacts you may have suffered because of the virus situation.

Hmm...

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Squeaky bum time for mottie, regardless of whichever scheme you admitted to falsely claim from in order to maintain your 'champagne lifestyle' :LOL:
 
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Squeaky bum time for mottie
Nonsense. The vagaries, complexities and ambiguity at large, justifying such a request from HMRC is staggering. Self employed bods could quite easily state that their health, mental health and their ability to earn, not just during the lock-down, but in the near future, is/was severely hampered.

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I leave all that stuff to my (well paid) accountancy firm. They can have it back for all I care, in any case.
 
Squeaky bum time for mottie, regardless of whichever scheme you admitted to falsely claim from in order to maintain your 'champagne lifestyle' :LOL:
Au contraire Rodney. Mr & Mrs Mottie operate a Limited company predominantly geared to education. In case you were unaware, schools have been closed since March and unlike people claiming on the SEISS, companies don’t have to prove anything. Couldn’t have come at a better time for us though but that’s the way the cookie crumbles. Might go back, just me - Mrs Mottie can remain furloughed - part time in September to get the maximum allowance possible. So, to recap. Directors on furlough - check. SBGF received - check. £1k bonus per employee for furlough retention - ready to claim in January, that’ll pay for a nice little luxury mini break. None of it needed, all of it both legal and very welcome. Ballcocks to Europe though, I’ll take our mini break in the UK and the dog can come as well - I think I’ll I’ll get her her own room too. Major bonus break will be in USA/Canada or may even go back to South Africa to see how they’re getting on without me. ;)

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You must also keep evidence of how your business was adversely affected by coronavirus. HMRC’s latest guidance says you must have records which “demonstrate the nature of the adverse effects to your business operations”.
My April/May accounts this year show a £14'000 drop (turnover) on the previous year. Good enough possibly.(y)
 
You must have had a week off. :whistle:
Lol.
March was down nearly £6000 (on last year) too. We were spending a huge amount less as a family in any case. The grant money they sent went straight into my tax paying account.
 
Might go back, just me - Mrs Mottie can remain furloughed - part time in September to get the maximum allowance possible.
Hmm...

But I thought you said a few days ago (in a topic now locked), "My wife works for the NHS and she currently gets free parking at work which is normally subsidised" ?

So currently furloughed or working?
 
Hmm...

But I thought you said a few days ago (in a topic now locked), "My wife works for the NHS and she currently gets free parking at work which is normally subsidised" ?

So currently furloughed or working?


Both. Best of both worlds and anyone with a limited company or the tiniest amount of business brains would know why. ;)

Hey, being as we're into asking about other people’s partners working status, what about your partner. Working, self employed or unemployed?
 
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Both. Best of both worlds and anyone with the tiniest amount of business brains would know why.
Well I guess that makes both of you benefit scroungers...

Rather ironic given your prejudiced view of 'foreigners'...

Talking of which...
Hey, being as we're into asking about other people’s partners working status, what about your partner. Working, self employed or unemployed?
Worked entire adult life in the UK and never been on benefits, same as me...

So it's fairly clear that we have very different ethics...

Unlike you we aren't scroungers, and obviously have a very different idea of 'entitlement'!

Our belief is you put into the pot when you can (which in our case is rather a lot), and only take out when needed rather than practising greed!
 
So it's fairly clear that we have very different ethics...
Why are you so against the government scheme? There's lots and lots of people using this so are you against everyone or just Mottie? Genuine question.
 
Why are you so against the government scheme? There's lots and lots of people using this so are you against everyone or just Mottie? Genuine question.
Who said I'm against the government scheme?

I'm just against the scheme being abused...

To my mind mottie and his sidekick are no better than tax dodging corporates and those using offshore tax havens...

It may possibly be legal, but it ain't right!
 
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