This man needs to be banged up

Notch7 · 28 Jul 2020

securespark said:
Yes, I do.

There are many degrees and mine, though I would by no means say mild, is nearer that end of the scale.

Amongst the biggest struggles I face are my right hand side is much weaker than my left, I have difficulty walking, have very poor balance and I am very clumsy and drop or spill things all the time.

My sister in law has it.

she is 46 and in the last year or so her ability to walk (which needs a walker) is getting worse and worse -she gets stressed and the messages stop getting to her legs and she freezes.

Its quite a worry because she is almost at the point where she needs a wheelchair.

As far as I know its not degenerative, but it does seem mobility gets worse in later life -have you experienced the same?

Vinty · 28 Jul 2020

Bobby Dazzler said:
In your opinion only despite having presented overwhelming evidence to you to the contrary.
You base your belief on a newspaper, a paper that presents itself as positing new ideas, but in reality posits old, Victorian ideology.

These definition closely resembles all definitions:

Jew
[ joo ]
noun

one of a scattered group of people that traces its descent from the Biblical Hebrews or from postexilic adherents of Judaism; Israelite.

a person whose religion is Judaism.

a subject of the ancient kingdom of Judah.

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/jew

Jews or Jewish people are an ethnoreligious group and a nation, originating from the Israelites and Hebrews of historical Israel and Judah. Jewish ethnicity, nationhood, and religion are strongly interrelated
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews

The problem with that definition is that modern Jews have very little connection with the ancient people of Israel.
The vast majority of todays jews are of European descent.
You also have Chinese jews who unsurprisingly look Chinese, you have Indian cochin jews who look like their fellow Indians, you have the black Falasha and Lemba jews who tend to look like their fellow blacks.
So the claim of direct descent from an ancient people doesn't seem plausible and maybe should be amended.
I hope what i have written above doesn't sound antisemitic, just pointing out a few anomalies to the accepted story which has been used to justify the confiscation of other people's property.

EFLImpudence · 28 Jul 2020

Vinty said:
I hope what i have written above doesn't sound antisemitic,

Of course it doesn't. You did not mention Semitic. A bit like the rapper.

As you say, a lot of Jews are less Semitic than Prince Archie is black.

EFLImpudence · 28 Jul 2020

Strange that Bobby is quoting Biblical references when he does not like Victorian definitions.

Bodgedbuild · 28 Jul 2020

EFLImpudence said:
Please show where in the rapper's tweets he mentioned Semites or Semitism.

He both posted video and tweeted rather a lot, his manner was extremely antagonistic and he compared Jews to The KKK which is particularly offensive to Jewish people as The KKK targeted Jewish as well as Black people and other groups. His remarks are antisemitic in most peoples definition but I'd rather not continue an argument on what type of discrimination it is, do't see the point. Even though I said people need to loosen up a tad and I do find light hearted jokes funny (maybe I shouldn't), he meant to cause offence or upset. To make matters worse he is something of a figurehead to rather a lot of people his outbursts may cause further to cause hatred or division.

Bodd · 28 Jul 2020

durhamplumber said:
He does talk a lot of sense that guy.(SBC)

Is sthat because he is black?

Bodd · 28 Jul 2020

bennymultifinish said:
you my friend are living proof.

That's not very nice. Do you feel good?

Bodd · 28 Jul 2020

Bobby Dazzler said:
The clue is in the joke:
Why would he punch you for no reason?

It could have misinterpreted my Essex accent or could have been his poor grasp of the English language

Vinty · 28 Jul 2020

Bobby Dazzler said:
If you address someone as 'Jew', it's a racial slur. If you refer to someone as a 'Jew' it is not a racial slur*. So the word in itself is not a racial slur, it's the application and context of the word that determines its meaning.
Similarly, to address a black person as 'black***', or whatever racist concoction you could think of, is obviously a racial slur. But to describe a black person as 'black' is not a racial slur.
Anyone would see that from one stranger to another, at a bus stop, would not know the ethnoreligious status of the other, and to address a stranger as 'jew' is obviously a racial slur.
Therefore it's safe to assume it's a racial slur in the joke.

*Edit: referring to someone by their ethnoreligious status, when you know their name or position is a racial slur.
Taking a parallel example, if you know the name of the office manager, as Tom, and he's BAME or disabled, and you refer to him as such, when in discussion with others who also know his name, it would be a racial slur.

Everything you have said could be correct, on the other hand the joke about the bloke at the bus stop is probably based on the fact that two words, Due and jew, sound the same, nothing at all to do with race or religion.

Brigadier · 28 Jul 2020

Bodgedbuild said:
He both posted video and tweeted rather a lot, his manner was extremely antagonistic and he compared Jews to The KKK which is particularly offensive to Jewish people as The KKK targeted Jewish as well as Black people and other groups. His remarks are antisemitic in most peoples definition but I'd rather not continue an argument on what type of discrimination it is, do't see the point. Even though I said people need to loosen up a tad and I do find light hearted jokes funny (maybe I shouldn't), he meant to cause offence or upset. To make matters worse he is something of a figurehead to rather a lot of people his outbursts may cause further to cause hatred or division.

He's probably written an album about salvation or summat, and needed to lay down a pretext to its release.

Bodgedbuild · 28 Jul 2020

Brigadier said:
He's probably written an album about salvation or summat, and needed to lay down a pretext to its release.

Yup, in some industries, creating a controversy gets you places, in others it gets you sacked..

durhamplumber · 28 Jul 2020

Bodd said:
Is sthat because he is black?

SBC...funny shade of black!..but no..his colour is irrelavant Bodd.

Bodd · 28 Jul 2020

durhamplumber said:
SBC...funny shade of black!..but no..his colour is irrelavant Bodd.

That's what I say, every time he says it...... I don't know why... As he can't hear me..

I do like him.... Not as much as his wife.

EFLImpudence · 28 Jul 2020

Bodgedbuild said:
He both posted video and tweeted rather a lot, his manner was extremely antagonistic and he compared Jews to The KKK which is particularly offensive to Jewish people as The KKK targeted Jewish as well as Black people and other groups.

So, he didn't mention Semitic people, then; just members of a religion.

His remarks are antisemitic in most peoples definition

They are, hence all the cries of racism.

Bodgedbuild · 28 Jul 2020

EFLImpudence said:
So, he didn't mention Semitic people, then; just members of a religion.

They are, hence all the cries of racism.

I'll just quote a .Gov website, it has a full definition of what term is considered appropriate for the "situation referred to in this thread" but like I said call it whatever you want......
A definition of antisemitism
https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/a-definition-of-antisemitism

This man needs to be banged up

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