Alternative to replacing glass with safety glass?

Coaster · 4 Aug 2020

I have internal doors which are about 40 years old,, each fitted with 10 tulip pattern glass panels 12" square. There is no removable beading to get the glass out.

I have checked brochures etc, but can't find new doors that would suit the style of house either.
I could chop out the "beading" but not that confident in carpentry.

Is there a product i could get like plastic sheeting that sticks onto the existing glass?

Lower · 4 Aug 2020

Google glass anti shatter film

crank39 · 4 Aug 2020

Your not going to get a film to stick to patterned glass though, one side will be heavily contoured but even the flatter side will be too much. As for beads then there must be some, the door would not have been made around the glass

Coaster · 5 Aug 2020

Thanks to you both for the advice. I'll have a look into them

mrrusty · 5 Aug 2020

I would leave them as they are. OK, may not be latest standard, but with small panels the risk is minimal. There is no regulation that says you must upgrade them.

crank39 · 5 Aug 2020

No one will come to your house to make sure your glazing is up to regs but to say there is NO REGULATION is plan wrong

Approved Document K

5.6 In the context of this approved document, a ‘small pane’ is an isolated pane or one of a number of panes held in glazing bars, traditional leaded lights or copper lights (see Diagram 5.3)

5.7 Small panes should be provided in accordance with all of the following.

In a small annealed glass pane, use glass with a minimum 6mm nominal thickness except in the situation described in b.
In traditional leaded or copper lights, when fire resistance is not important, you may use 4mm glass.
Use the dimensions and areas shown in Diagram 5.3.

Basically panes less than 0.5m2 in area do not need to be safety glass as in toughened or laminated BUT have to be at least 6mm thick to give it strength from its thickness

mrrusty · 5 Aug 2020

I didn't say there was no regulation, I said:-

mrrusty said:
There is no regulation that says you must upgrade

which is totally different

crank39 · 5 Aug 2020

There is if your getting someone in like a joiner or glazier to do the work, they have to abide by regs (above), however if you were to do the work yourself then as I also said above no one is going to come and check your glazing meets regs.

ronniecabers · 6 Aug 2020

crank39 said:
Basically panes less than 0.5m2 in area do not need to be safety glass as in toughened or laminated BUT have to be at least 6mm thick to give it strength from its thickness

Not quite true. If the glass width exceeds 250mm , regardless of the m2 , it has to be a safety glass ( or most doors wouldn't actually require safety glass ), under 250mm it has to be at least 6mm thick glass

This rule also stands for cabinet doors.

As Crank39 says if a tradesman removes that glass for whatever reason , he can NOT put back glass that does not conform to the regulations. If , god forbid , there was an accident that required HSE to be involved said tradesman could , potentially , go to prison or be fined up to £10,000, and even the person who cut the glass ( if knowing it went in a door and wasn't up to regs ), could be fined or imprisoned

crank39 · 6 Aug 2020

Ha I kind of meant that but without actually saying it lol, I only gave one half of the story i.e the m2 and forgot the 250mm bit, D'oh!!!

And yes you are quite correct re the HSE, tradesman, hefty fines and possibly prison including the person who cut the glass, it was drummed into me by an ex employer when I first started in the glass game. As it happens I currently carrying Reg14 surveys and filming on a very very large commercial property estate circa 8,000 buildings

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