Plumber fraud - seeking help

MD SHAH · 13 Aug 2020

johnny2007 said:
Last time I state this:
You transferred the money to a ltd company, so that's your first defendant.
As a scare tactic and nothing more than that, you can and should name the director as co-defendant.
There's very little chance they'll fall for this, but you never know.
Directors are not personally liable for ltd company debts, so it would take them just a little dig on the internet to find their way out, but i bet they've done all of this before, several times.
If they're so stupid to panic at sight of a mcol in which she's named as co-defendant, they might call you and give you back some money, but this is a very remote possibility.
I am out as I have repeated this many times and you keep on asking the same questions.

Sorry I missed it among a lot of messages. Thanks a lot. I will follow it

muggles · 13 Aug 2020

MD SHAH said:
Sorry guys for bothering. Will it be still ok if I claim from individual or Sole Tradesman instead of Ltd company?

No, you can't claim from an individual. Your contract is with the Ltd company. No Sole Trader is involved in this, at least not based on the infirmary you've supplied. You need to name the Ltd company and the Director as co-defendents.

ianmcd · 13 Aug 2020

muggles said:
No, you can't claim from an individual. Your contract is with the Ltd company. No Sole Trader is involved in this, at least not based on the infirmary you've supplied. You need to name the Ltd company and the Director as co-defendents.

I thought you had meant to type information, but no infirmary is probably right

MD SHAH · 13 Aug 2020

I have reached the “Pay & submit” page And nowhere I saw Co-defender field. I saw contact person’s field (with suggestion “it can be the person you death for the claim”. ).
Anything wrong?

muggles · 13 Aug 2020

MD SHAH said:
I have reached the “Pay & submit” page And nowhere I saw Co-defender field. I saw contact person’s field (with suggestion “it can be the person you death for the claim”. ).
Anything wrong?

Sounds OK but you're the person looking at it so you're in the best position to judge

Mottie · 13 Aug 2020

When we moved house, the buyer tried to chip me a grand at the point of exchange of contracts. I agreed to let him owe me it for one year - was all agreed and signed by our solicitors. When the time came for him to pay me, he said he couldn’t, was skint, wasn’t working etc so I claimed through the small claims court. I filled in the form wrong and put him as the plaintiff and me as the defendant. I found that out when the paperwork came to me! Anyway, I corrected it and he came round straight away with the cash.

johnny2007 · 13 Aug 2020

Mottie said:
When we moved house, the buyer tried to chip me a grand at the point of exchange of contracts. I agreed to let him owe me it for one year - was all agreed and signed by our solicitors. When the time came for him to pay me, he said he couldn’t, was skint, wasn’t working etc so I claimed through the small claims court. I filled in the form wrong and put him as the plaintiff and me as the defendant. I found that out when the paperwork came to me! Anyway, I corrected it and he came round straight away with the cash.

Exactly.
That's the op's only hope: the director panics and pays up.
Unlikely but not impossible.

MD SHAH · 13 Aug 2020

muggles said:
Sounds OK but you're the person looking at it so you're in the best position to judge

i havent still submitted the form as I waited advices. As the instruction says “contact Person can be the person with you dealt/discussed for the claim”, I’m putting the name of the guy, Hope it will be fine?

ianmcd · 13 Aug 2020

How many times do you need told ? if you want legal advice , ask on a legal forum, this is a plumbing forum, the judge wont want to hear "but I asked on Diynot and they said " you will never see a penny of that money back, no matter how many times you ask on here

muggles · 14 Aug 2020

MD SHAH said:
i havent still submitted the form as I waited advices. As the instruction says “contact Person can be the person with you dealt/discussed for the claim”, I’m putting the name of the guy, Hope it will be fine?

No, put the name of the Director, Natalie, on the form. The man you dealt with has no official position within the company. You need to make sure you're naming the company as the primary defendant, with her as the representative.

johnny2007 · 14 Aug 2020

muggles said:
No, put the name of the Director, Natalie, on the form. The man you dealt with has no official position within the company. You need to make sure you're naming the company as the primary defendant, with her as the representative.

He's been told a dozen times.
Starting to think it's a wind up.

denso13 · 14 Aug 2020

ron.gold said:
No ones forcing you to contribute if you don't want to!

But I do want to.

ron.gold said:
Take a break and let the OP seek advice.

Don't have a problem with that at all. Why on earth ask for legal advice on a DIY forum though? There are plenty of more suitable places to ask if he doesn't want to ask his solicitor.

Notch7 · 14 Aug 2020

ron.gold said:
Been reading this thread on and off, finding it quite interesting and informative. Seems like a good thread to have in the forum so other people can search for advice who are in similar positions.

To the people who keep claiming that this is a wind up. OK I'll bite, let's say it is a wind up. It's hardly a 'Wolf of Wall Street' level scam. Do you think the OP will be sitting up gleefully every night thinking 'aha, finally achieved my life long objective of creating a fake thread on a DIY forum and conned @denso13, @ianmcd and @johnny2007 into replying'

And, by the way, even if you still feel this thread is some kind of conspiracy theory/scam, then why not just ignore it? What's the worst that can happen? Well have one extra thread in a forum where there are already thousands of threads!

Take a break and let the OP seek advice. No ones forcing you to contribute if you don't want to!

I thought it was a wind up at first, but I was wrong.

I feel sorry for the guy, it's horrible being conned.

HERTS P&D · 14 Aug 2020

What does not make sense to me is that the 'builder' lives in Leicester and the customer lives in London.

Does the 'builder' travel down each week to quote for jobs??

Andy

Nige F · 14 Aug 2020

Perhaps he's just a Traveller ?

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