Can't find a 28" FHD (1920x1080) TV!?

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I am after a new TV that meets the following specs, can anyone help me find one:

  • Resolution is 1920 x 1080 or Greater. (i.e. Not 1366 x 768)
  • Has a built in digital terrestrial tuner
  • Is 27" or 28" in size
  • Is new/current model.
Regards: Elliott.
 
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But they are all of the 1366 x 768 resolution. I am after 1920 x 1080.

What you're after doesn't exist. It's down to economics, I'm afraid, because the requirements fall between two stools.

For anyone looking for a TV, when viewed from the sort of average distance for a lounge / kitchen / dining room / bedroom the panel resolution difference between 1366x768 and 1920x1080 makes no appreciable difference when watching SD or HD content. However, it makes a fairly sizable difference to the product cost, and that's a problem. The average TV buyer would rather not spend the extra £50-£80 premium for a Full HD panel, so the manufacturers have no incentive to produce it.

Where someone is looking for a desktop-monitor-cum-TV - and they know enough about specs to sort the wheat from the chaff - the panel quality in TVs just isn't up to the job. For a start, TV grade panels have too slow a pixel reaction time (GTG) which means ghost trails on screen. The bigger problem though is colour banding. A lot of cheaper panels are not true 8-bit. They're 6-bit plus 2-bit-FRC which is a cost-cutting measure. The bottom line for these is that proper 1080p computer monitors are cheaper and work better for PC use than some compromised crossover product.

There's also a commercial aspect to this from the panel manufacturers side. The LCD substrate is made in large sheets and then cut to size. There are several aspects to this: The size of the sheet that the plant can produce; the generation of glass it's making (less demand and hence lower unit profit for lower-performing glass such as 6bit + 2bit FRC); how many panels at a certain size can be cut from the sheet; the cost of maintaining older plant versus replacing it with something that produces a more valuable product.


The conclusion to all this is that if you want a Full HD screen, you have a better chance with a 32" size TV, but even they're thin on the ground.
 
The annoying thing is that both LG and Samsung previously produced 1080p monitor TVs in the 27 inch size. I can't comment on the samsung ones but I was very happy with my M2762d.

I guess though, once "Full HD" was no longer the hip marketing phrase the bean counters decided it was a place they could cut corners :( So it seems that nowadays you have to compromise at least one of the items on the OPs list.
 

It's important to check though that the PC monitor will accept video signal timings via HDMI.

This is a PC monitor, so it expects a mimimum of 1080p @ 48Hz refresh rate.

A Freeview signal in native form is either 1080i 50Hz or 576i 50Hz. This is for HD and Standard Definition (SD) resolution respectively. Both of these are interlaced (i) rather than progressive (p) signals that a PC monitor expects. This means that a PC monitor won't display them.

It's possible with some Freeview receivers and recorders to have the box convert the signal to 1080p, but you'd need to know for sure whether the output is at 25Hz or 50Hz.

50Hz is where the box is converting interlaced to progressive (deinterlacing) and frame rate doubling too. 25Hz is where the box is simply deinterlacing.

[For the sake of completeness, any conversion also requires scaling up the resolution from SD 576i to HD 1080p since a PC display may not do that either.]

Not all receivers are capable of these sorts of signal conversions. Pre-SkyQ Sky boxes don't output at 1080p. The best you'll get from them is 1080i 50Hz. That means it wouldn't be compatible with a display such as the AOC.

There's another consideration too; sound. A PC monitor often won't include speakers or remote control for that matter. This means buying some additional speakers such as a sound bar and making sure it is compatible with the signal sockets on the source device. None of these are insurmountable issues, but they are extra considerations (and costs) compared to the simplicity of plugging in a TV aerial lead and just watching.
 
This is a PC monitor, so it expects a mimimum of 1080p @ 48Hz refresh rate.
Hmm, reading the manual it in the "preset modes" section it lists a bunch of traditional pc resolutions and 1280x720 as well as 1920x1080 at both 50Hz and 60Hz. No mention of whether it is limited to only those modes though, and no mention of whether it supports interlaced modes.
 
The reason you can't get a 1080 TV that small is... there's no point in such a thing. Because the distance people sit away from a TV (Unlike a PC Monitor) means the pixels are too small to discern when sized down for a 28" screen. It is why there is a variety of HD standard, 720 and 1080, then upto UHD. Do some PPI calcs or look up the numbers and you'll see why.

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