Valiant Or Viessmann Boiler
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Installer sugested baxi 624Trying to do research before going blindly with him
thats a good option, plenty of people like them, installers and repairers are everywhere, spares are easy, the boiler is good.
only downside is the opentherm only works with their own controller so cant use this option from your nest, but apart from that its all good.
Gasguru couldnt have said it better - I cannot go with some hardcore diy reccomendation if normal people dont know how to service or support them
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Many professions have been forced to clean up their act with disclosure of kickbacks/commissions etc...the heating industry is yet to do so.
Some manufacturers might give the installer a "free" boiler with every 10 installed, or a simple cash bung of £100 for every install etc.
That's just the way the industry works in this country...installers double up as the sales force for the manufacturer.
This becomes an issue when you as the customer assume you're getting fair advice from the installer but are perhaps not being made aware of
important issues like poor manufacturer support or reliability because the installer just wants the sale.
It's also fair to say that due to these incentives several especially hopeless manufacturers that produced woeful boilers have survived rather than going bankcrupt.
Some manufacturers might give the installer a "free" boiler with every 10 installed, or a simple cash bung of £100 for every install etc.
That's just the way the industry works in this country...installers double up as the sales force for the manufacturer.
This becomes an issue when you as the customer assume you're getting fair advice from the installer but are perhaps not being made aware of
important issues like poor manufacturer support or reliability because the installer just wants the sale.
It's also fair to say that due to these incentives several especially hopeless manufacturers that produced woeful boilers have survived rather than going bankcrupt.
Thanks gasgutu very grateful
a final question which boiler would you pick for a small two bed flat ? I did see baxi offering the £100 bung. I wish they wouldn’t do that
a final question which boiler would you pick for a small two bed flat ? I did see baxi offering the £100 bung. I wish they wouldn’t do that
Baxi/Potterton/Main are the same boiler group and these models are essentially identical inside but with different front panels and warranty lenghts.
They are dead simple to work on, easy parts availability and sensible parts prices when I last looked.
Main Eco Compact 25 or 30kW (5 year warranty AFAIR)
Baxi 624 or 630 or 636 (7 year warranty AFAIR)
Baxi 825 or 830 or 836 (10 year warranty AFAIR)
You'll find you just pay extra over the basic boiler price for the longer warranty but without a quality install and proper yearly servicing warranties are often voided.
A 24 or 25kW boiler is sufficient for a shower or occasional bath and with much of Londons hopeless water pressure it's futile installing anything much bigger unless the water pressure/flowrates are measured.
That bung comes out of the higher kW/longer warranty models...
Don't be swayed into looking at other models within the range...most boiler manufacturers have good and absolute dogs of boiler designs.
They are dead simple to work on, easy parts availability and sensible parts prices when I last looked.
Main Eco Compact 25 or 30kW (5 year warranty AFAIR)
Baxi 624 or 630 or 636 (7 year warranty AFAIR)
Baxi 825 or 830 or 836 (10 year warranty AFAIR)
You'll find you just pay extra over the basic boiler price for the longer warranty but without a quality install and proper yearly servicing warranties are often voided.
A 24 or 25kW boiler is sufficient for a shower or occasional bath and with much of Londons hopeless water pressure it's futile installing anything much bigger unless the water pressure/flowrates are measured.
That bung comes out of the higher kW/longer warranty models...
Don't be swayed into looking at other models within the range...most boiler manufacturers have good and absolute dogs of boiler designs.
Of the options you have said the Baxi is truly the best all round option. Whether they do the kickback or not.
Also don't be put off by the kick back there is many industries that use this as an effective tool to keep customers.
In the world of online trading the profit margins have become increasingly tighter, and customers can find the boilers at often cheaper prices than installers get at their local merchants, so the £100 cashback is more of an incentive to appease the installer as a lot started to get upset they couldn't make profit on boilers.
The 600 series boiler is actually a very good boiler and has brought many installers back to Baxi after a number of years of poorly designed boilers.
As a side note if going for the Baxi have you thought about their smart thermostat? It's similar to the nest in the way it works and is opentherm which is better for efficiency and makes the house a more comfortable environment so you don't get temperature overshoots.
Admittedly though it doesn't look as nice as a nest, but the opentherm side of the nest doesn't work with the Baxi opentherm. (Though tbh nest opentherm doesn't work with any of the boilers you've mentioned)
Yes, about the time they started advertising in the other WHICH magazines, money, travel etc.
I enjoyed the humour in that on several levels
I know there are people in here that like Viessmann boilers, I would never fit one, if a customer was adamant that they wanted one then I would walk, I dont even repair them anymore, crazy prices for parts, I class them the same as Kestons
In the end I bought a mains eco compact boiler for £480 and flue for 70 which is pretty cheap
not installed it yet but I have the box in the house. Intergas rapid was also available for same price but I chose the main in the end
I’m so glad I did not go for something more expensive
cost to install is £600 which sounds high for a straight swap and powerflush. Can I do any diy to make this cheaper?
not installed it yet but I have the box in the house. Intergas rapid was also available for same price but I chose the main in the end
I’m so glad I did not go for something more expensive
cost to install is £600 which sounds high for a straight swap and powerflush. Can I do any diy to make this cheaper?
20K on a car and £500 on the boiler....you sound like my nightmare customer
Get a Beemer and you could spend more on the car service than the boiler...
Gasguru has a point - The OP seems happy to yearn for a BMW or a Volvo with all the toys and is prepared to spend twenty thousand pounds , but ...................
QUOTE ... "cost to install is £600 which sounds high for a straight swap and powerflush. Can I do any diy to make this cheaper?"
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Hahaha. The car plan has been shelved and we have had to put our eyes Oma. Ford Focus!!!
things are not easy any more and me plus partner want to pay down the mortgage
things are not easy any more and me plus partner want to pay down the mortgage
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