honeywell g2-g20 bell box and zone lock out.

jayla · 10 Oct 2020

ok the tried a few settings regarding my buzzer in the porch that i want to use a beep to let me know the all has been set in full mode.

when i set the buzzer function to "set" the buzzer is always on in full set mode
when i set the buzzer function on "unset" the buzzer beeps 2 twice and turns of. this is what i want on the set mode
i also tried confime function did nothing.

there was no function call confirm set. so any idea what other function i can use to make this work?

jayla · 10 Oct 2020

09=Set (Reflex) The Set output is activated when the assigned groups on the system are set. This output is a Reflex output and follows the set and unset status of the groups.

As this mode is reflex and not pulse i guess there is no other function i can use to do what i want.

jayla · 15 Oct 2020

hello does anyone know if i can charge the back up battery on the power rio because i have just connected the power to panel and then battery but dont get 12v output from batt connection to charge battery. they are low and need charging

jayla · 24 Oct 2020

GalaxyGuy said:
The 0v gives a reference for the bus - that's all really.

hi where do i connect the 0v from the control panel to the rio power controller. Looking at the diagram i am guessing it connects just after the fault op connector next to where the zone connectors are labeled 0v?

jayla · 24 Oct 2020

jayla said:
hi where do i connect the 0v from the control panel to the rio power controller. Looking at the diagram i am guessing it connects just after the fault op connector next to where the zone connectors are labeled 0v?

Also why does the p026 have a connection called bell box connector at 14.5v what is that used for when the voltage is 12v for everything and the bell box outside. So why is this one 14.5v?

GalaxyGuy · 25 Oct 2020

It's a hangover to the past when some old bell boxes required 14.5v inputs. Just ignore that connection.

GalaxyGuy · 25 Oct 2020

jayla said:
hi where do i connect the 0v from the control panel to the rio power controller. Looking at the diagram i am guessing it connects just after the fault op connector next to where the zone connectors are labeled 0v?

Any of the 0v. They all connect to the same copper 0v plane on the board.

scott1980 · 25 Oct 2020

Also, the 14.5 volt output isn't battery backed. I went out on call a few years ago to a system that we had taken over, the previous installer had connected the detector supply to the 14.5v output. They had a power cut in the night resulting in a confirmed alarm due to all of the powered detectors dropping out...

jayla · 26 Oct 2020

GalaxyGuy said:
Any of the 0v. They all connect to the same copper 0v plane on the board.

Thanks for that. Why have they not written this in the manual or the documents? I gone through all of them and it only says to connect the bus like. Just hand it stupid they not written something important like this.

Thanks for the information i will be installing his panel in two days just waiting for the 12v 7ah battery. I never knew i need another card if i was going to install 2 batterys

jayla · 29 Oct 2020

Hi

I have started installing my powered RIO and i am a electronic engineer and i abit confused on this

the g2 power is 0.5a mains and powered RIO is 1A mains so total is 1.5A. Both box are next to each other. I want connect both box to the same fused spur. powered RIO states only one mains cable can come into box and no more. Why can i not just daisy chain it. What the pro and con of having to fused spurs when both panel have a mains fuse inside them anyways. So i think it better just to have one spur. What you guys think?

Also i realised the sd2 speed dialer goes to g2 panel for power and trig 1001 address but then another output from powered RIO also goes to sd2 dialer for the silent PA. Question is will this not effect the trigger on RIO to sd2 due to know having the power linked from there to dialer?? Is this why you said to connect the ground up?

I know i can rewire the sd2 dialer so it all comes out of RIO power box and just use the outputs on RIO instead of the TRIG 1001. But why do it if above might work?

Any help appericated

GalaxyGuy · 29 Oct 2020

jayla said:
Hi

I have started installing my powered RIO and i am a electronic engineer and i abit confused on this

the g2 power is 0.5a mains and powered RIO is 1A mains so total is 1.5A. Both box are next to each other. I want connect both box to the same fused spur. powered RIO states only one mains cable can come into box and no more. Why can i not just daisy chain it. What the pro and con of having to fused spurs when both panel have a mains fuse inside them anyways. So i think it better just to have one spur. What you guys think?

Also i realised the sd2 speed dialer goes to g2 panel for power and trig 1001 address but then another output from powered RIO also goes to sd2 dialer for the silent PA. Question is will this not effect the trigger on RIO to sd2 due to know having the power linked from there to dialer?? Is this why you said to connect the ground up?

I know i can rewire the sd2 dialer so it all comes out of RIO power box and just use the outputs on RIO instead of the TRIG 1001. But why do it if above might work?

Any help appericated

The single power source is to avoid having a single path of failure.

When you are connecting different devices with different +V sources, it's important to set things up to be open collector with no pull-ups on the external devices. That way, the positive voltage reference comes from the dialler and not the panel or power RIO where those levels may have a potential difference. All the grounds are common, so whenever the panel or power RIO sink an output to ground, all devices are using the same reference.

jayla · 29 Oct 2020

GalaxyGuy said:
The single power source is to avoid having a single path of failure.

When you are connecting different devices with different +V sources, it's important to set things up to be open collector with no pull-ups on the external devices. That way, the positive voltage reference comes from the dialler and not the panel or power RIO where those levels may have a potential difference. All the grounds are common, so whenever the panel or power RIO sink an output to ground, all devices are using the same reference.

i am using pa o/p 4 from power RIO to dialer to trig A dialer input. This this mean i need to remover the pull up from the RIO because to me it looks like you talking about outputs from from dialer to box as thats the only open collector on the dialer. g2 i am using 1001 to trig b to dialer. i Think i dont need to do nothing ? is that correct.

jayla · 30 Oct 2020

Ok i have finished the wiring as you can see in the picture. Everything works fine. But I am a bit confused why the it show nothing in the menu under RIO yet picks all the zones up and psu is fine as well. Also why is the voltage different from both boxes. G2-20 is 13.7v yet the powered RIO is 14.3v ? the grounds are connected together.

Also i have a Pir which i have shown n picture for a room which is only 2m by 4m and is too sensitive even in the lowest setting. Plus in the morning the sun comes through the window. Which pir would suit it ? As i got a few in the lost but this dual one is no good.

Let me know what you think of the wiring as it took me 2 days when i thought it will only take me 2 hours due to extending half the wires and also remove all them wires you saw in the pics to add this extra panel.

I was disappointed i could not add the 12v 12ah battery on the RIO box but i can in the G2-20 box.

sparkymarka · 30 Oct 2020

Well that’s an equinox E DT , I’ve got hundreds out in the field ....it doesn’t help that the microwave is on max looking at that picture

jayla · 30 Oct 2020

sparkymarka said:
Well that’s an equinox E DT , I’ve got hundreds out in the field ....it doesn’t help that the microwave is on max looking at that picture

It was on max because the min level was so sensitive and thought they got it wrong lol. But on max the level is the same as the min level.

btw the sensor is new and i got more of the them in the lost just. Just wondering its to sensitive as the room is to small maybe

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