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It's also slightly wrong. Some elements of the program delivered. NHS.net has been a sucsess and is the underpinning for the NHS use of teams and office 365 which turned out to be very useful thanks to Covid-19.

Sadly we can't just arrest and imprison every client who requests unachievable products, PM who fails to deliver or IT monkey that lets bugs through their code.

Bug? That's a feature. You can pay extra for the fix.

Spaghetti code you're after. Uk Retail banks step forward. :mrgreen:

If you want sweatshop code monkeys - Accent on the Future. :whistle::mrgreen:
 
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pretty sure there would have been tenders for these. Anything over ~£160K has to be tendered under OJEU rules. You can search here: https://www.tendersdirect.co.uk/search/new/keyword_categories.aspx?keywords=NHS
Sadly you are wrong, and you appear not to understand the consequences of 'secondary legislation'...

"The UK government has awarded £10bn worth of contracts related to the coronavirus crisis to private companies since March, mostly without a competitive tender, according to research. A total of 843 Covid-19 deals have been handed out by the government, said Tussell, a data provider that tracks state contracts"

"Experts questioned whether the government should now be ensuring more contracts are put out to competitive tender to try to ensure value for money for the taxpayer."

Of course many of those contracts have gone to their mates, so I ask you the same question - Do you agree or disagree that under the emergency legislation contracts should be handed out 'willy nilly' without tendering or parliamentary scrutiny?
 
Because they put it in the headline.
Because it is not yet known.
Because he was 76.
Because he was overweight.

The Beeb used to go in for factual reporting, they used to be better . That's my gripe.

He died and he had a covid diagnosis. Those are the facts. His diagnosis seems to be recent and during his Hospital admission.
 
Incorrect, no I didn't, however, you got mad because you presumed the BBC said he died from it (when they didn't say that at all).

No I didn't. Not did I "get mad". I actually said

Well, the headline gives that impression anyway.

Before bemoaning the Beeb's descent.

However, if you have to chuck up a strawman, expect it to be pointed out.
 
I am well aware of that, thanks all the same. :)

Bobby Ball: Cannon & Ball star dies aged 76 after Covid-19 diagnosis

So what is wrong with that headline - you agree it's factual.

You wouldn't make it as a Press Baron. :mrgreen:
 
"If lockdown was a drug, it wouldn't be approved...it does more harm than good".
Would it be approved by NICE?.
By the governments own admission it would not"


Professor Angus Dalgleish.
 
No I didn't. Not did I "get mad". I actually said



Before bemoaning the Beeb's descent.

However, if you have to chuck up a strawman, expect it to be pointed out.
Ok, mad isn't the word - it's your gripe. Twas a presumption on my behalf because of your annoyance over the beeb, not a strawman (why do people want to say things are strawmen on here all the time? It's so dull, this faux intelligence crud when it's just people not listening/reading properly).
Because they put it in the headline.
Because it is not yet known.
Because he was 76.
Because he was overweight.

The Beeb used to go in for factual reporting, they used to be better . That's my gripe.
My gripe is your unwillingness to accept that you had a gripe over a headline that you filled the gaps in yourself to read he died of covid, when the beeb said no such thing. Their headline was not wrong.

Instead, you wish to a, have a gripe over a BBC headline that you missread/misunderstood/presumed and b, decided to instead to downplay it so much, presumably to try and prove the BBC wrong when they weren't.
Sigh.
 
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Sadly you are wrong, and you appear not to understand the consequences of 'secondary legislation'...

"The UK government has awarded £10bn worth of contracts related to the coronavirus crisis to private companies since March, mostly without a competitive tender, according to research. A total of 843 Covid-19 deals have been handed out by the government, said Tussell, a data provider that tracks state contracts"

"Experts questioned whether the government should now be ensuring more contracts are put out to competitive tender to try to ensure value for money for the taxpayer."

Of course many of those contracts have gone to their mates, so I ask you the same question - Do you agree or disagree that under the emergency legislation contracts should be handed out 'willy nilly' without tendering or parliamentary scrutiny?

This thread is about an NHS IT contract - it was tendered in lots. This thread is not about emergency supply due to a global pandemic.
So.. neither wrong nor needing a lesson on the law. ;)
FWIW, I do think emergency situations need to bypass standard procurement processes. The consequence will be from time-to-time getting a bad deal. But clearly there are plenty of bad deals that were properly tendered.
 
Ok, mad isn't the word - it's your gripe. Twas a presumption on my behalf because of your annoyance over the beeb, not a strawman (why do people want to say things are strawmen on here all the time? It's so dull, this faux intelligence crud when it's just people not listening/reading properly).

My gripe is your unwillingness to accept that you had a gripe over a headline that you filled the gaps in yourself to read he died of covid, when the beeb said no such thing. Their headline was not wrong.

Instead, you wish to a, have a gripe over a BBC headline that you missread/misunderstood/presumed and b, decided to instead to downplay it so much, presumably to try and prove the BBC wrong when they weren't.
Sigh.


The use of "strawman" on here might irk you, but where its use is due, it is due.
Putting words in people's mouth just to knock them down is a strawman.

Contrast that with Notchy using the term against me the other day incorrectly - I stated a fact, didn't attribute any quote to him - yet he claimed "strawman!" anyway.

With regard to the headline, why mention covid at all? If not to link his death to it?
 
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