Freds new flat

Hi All.

It occurs to me that I never gave the final outcome of the issues in this installation. Shortly after he moved in there was a certain amount of rewiring done and a nice shiny CU fitted.

However as a result of the LEB visit, the landlord was escorted off the premises and lived in a 'big house' for seveal years. Earlier this year he was found to be growing plants indoors again and will be out of circulation for a little while.
 
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In August 2016 the landlord got 6 years for growing pot plants.

Guess what?

He was released in September this year and Freds meter has just been read and bill received, there is a significant increase of useage again so called police.

The landlord must be a total plonker.
 
Hmm, at some point I believe it's expected we'll have universal landlord licencing/registration. With a "fit and proper" requirement. Fred can expect either a new landlord, or to find his current one spending more time "away".
 
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Hmm, at some point I believe it's expected we'll have universal landlord licencing/registration. With a "fit and proper" requirement. Fred can expect either a new landlord, or to find his current one spending more time "away".
You're probably right and I can see it now. Landlord qualifications:
Degree in psycology,
Annual assesment costing £5K
Yada
Yada
Feel free to add your own predictions
 
I thought we do need to pass exams to be a landlord? When I had the option sell or rent my mothers and our old house, I selected sell because of all the rules and regulations involved in becoming a landlord.

I have enough problems keeping the house we live in maintained without having a second one. Is this thread going for longest running thread?
 
You can see what’s required in Scotland:
https://www.landlordregistrationscotland.gov.uk/registration-support
https://www.landlordregistrationscotland.gov.uk/registration-support

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Edit: and the criteria for not being “fit and proper” is here:
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/asp/2004/8/section/85


(1)In deciding for the purposes of section 84(3) or (4) whether the relevant person or, as the case may be, the person is a fit and proper person, the local authority shall have regard (among other things) to any material falling within subsections (2) to (4).

(2)Material falls within this subsection if it shows that the relevant person or, as the case may be, the person has—

(a)committed any offence involving—

(i)fraud or other dishonesty;

[F1(ia)firearms (within the meaning of section 57(1) of the Firearms Act 1968 (c. 27));]

(ii)violence; or

(iii)drugs;
 
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I know in Wales the rules are now not as strict as England, they were stricter however there is a lack of property being offered for rent, so the Welsh government has backed off a bit, they seem to now feel having a slightly sub standard house is better than no house.

There is a good reason why tenants put up with sub standard property, there are simply not enough properties to go around, so to
Hmm, at some point I believe it's expected we'll have universal landlord licencing/registration. With a "fit and proper" requirement. Fred can expect either a new landlord, or to find his current one spending more time "away".
no I can't see England, Scotland and Wales ever having the same rules, we never have had same rules, I remember as a kid going to England on a Sunday for a drink. Can't even have same Covid 19 lock down rules.
 
There is a good reason why tenants put up with sub standard property, there are simply not enough properties to go around, so to
I've found the easiest way to avoid substandard tenants is to not have substandard properties.
 
I've found the easiest way to avoid substandard tenants is to not have substandard properties.
That is of course true, however my point is if the property is sub standard why do the tenants stay? The owner/occupier has a problem moving, he has to find a buyer, but as a tenant no one can hold you to a contract if the home is sub standard.
 
That is of course true, however my point is if the property is sub standard why do the tenants stay? The owner/occupier has a problem moving, he has to find a buyer, but as a tenant no one can hold you to a contract if the home is sub standard.
Totally correct, except if they move into other rental property they are expected to have a reference from a previous residence. It's a vicious cycle, bad tenants tend to be in bad properties and bad landlords don't give references.

I gave my point of view from the landlords side and I've found the agents are very good at weeding out the wrong tenants.

We have had mildew issues and called in several experts [at some expense I might add] and each time it has been a case of ventilation being blocked up. I've seen the TV programs with the same problem and sometimes seen the same thing on there, so it's not always the landlord totally to blame.
 
I have known perfectly decent properties get trashed by entitled deckhiads who think that landlords are rolling in it and can afford to lose a few quid and in any case "it's all insured"...
 
I have known perfectly decent properties get trashed by entitled deckhiads who think that landlords are rolling in it and can afford to lose a few quid and in any case "it's all insured"...
Yes you are perfectly correct and we've had 2 'problems' since becoming landlords:
First was a tenant moved out and let a friend move in, he sent monthly checks for 3 months and the agents contacted our official tenant, he explained [lied] it was to do with the way he was being paid. The checks stopped, a visit to the property indicated it was no longer occupied but it was full of rubbish and very dirty. Not destroyed/vandalised but it took a 2nd skip.
Second the tenant had been there 3 or 4 months before being escorted from the property [according to his mother (who lived opposite)- for his own protection]. The following day I was boarding up broken windows when the fight broke out in the street, his mother was removed along with a van load of pot plants. I heard from the police the fight was bigger the previous evening which expained the damage to windows, doors walls and flooring.

Yeah I've had a couple of problems but the agents are normally pretty good at rejecting bad tenants.

One of the properties I visited with a view to purchasing was a victim of bad tenants: Outside was perpect, inside all doors and frames were smashed/jemmied, not a single bit of metal left [even the fischer screws removed from window frames and openers were wedged into place with cardboard, front door fischers and all internal furniture removed door, fires started in all sanitary ware, electric accessories removed and cable removed as far as possible, steel partition studding gone and PB wrecked on wooden studded walls.
So yes I've seen the results others have suffered.
Part 2 of this tale the selling agents were a tiny company operated from a room of their home and I din't trust them [truthfully they were the main reason for not buying] I also found out from one of my managing agents the estate agent was also the managing agent for the property.
 

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