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Harry Bloomfield · 24 Nov 2020

jonbey said:
I like my current system of reading meters - makes it harder for the supplier to unexpectedly increase your monthly DD.

How so? You have your energy to pay for anyway. My present energy supplier fine tweaks my DD, so by the end of the year I owe/ they owe me nothing. It works great, if they have accurate consumption figures via the SM, or you provide them with regular figures

Harry Bloomfield · 24 Nov 2020

JOHNBOY42 said:
I wont have one because I dont read my meters and they have to send somebody (paid) to coma and read it....same as my water meter... I also wont use the scanners in the supermarket and would rather wait at the till.... somebody paid to do it

Cost of which is added to your/all our bills.

^woody^ · 24 Nov 2020

I'm on a tariff where I should read the meter every month. I don't bother, so they estimate the bills, DD might change slightly once a year when I give my annual reading

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I think that is smart. No drama.

Brigadier · 24 Nov 2020

Harry Bloomfield said:
The supplier pays for the sim card and meter energy.

I doubt "the supplier pays".

Harry Bloomfield said:
Cost of which is added to your/all our bills.

That's more like it

Harry Bloomfield · 24 Nov 2020

Brigadier said:
I doubt "the supplier pays".

That's more like it

We do pay for absolutely everything, even the engineers overalls, but the juice used by the electronics will not be registered on your meter as used by you.

noseall · 25 Nov 2020

^woody^ said:
I give my annual reading

You don't even need to bother with that with a smart meter.

No brainer. Estimated bills, lol.

noseall · 25 Nov 2020

Harry Bloomfield said:
I owe/ they owe me nothing

Some people prefer to not know their consumption then have a £1500 bill at the next audit.

Estimated bills lol.

^woody^ · 25 Nov 2020

noseall said:
Estimated bills,

Their estimates are as accurate as my quotes.

No brainer.

Ihavenojob · 25 Nov 2020

If you want a smart meter, have one, if you don't want one, don't have one. It's not compulsory to have one.

ellal · 25 Nov 2020

FiremanT said:
There may be reasons for not having one, but that isn’t included.

Really?

"The Government is considering giving energy networks the power to switch off a household's energy supply without warning or compensation for those affected.
A series of 'modifications' to the Smart Energy Code have been proposed by officials and look set to pass into law by next spring (2021).
These include giving networks the right to decide when they consider the grid to be in a state of 'emergency' and the power to switch off high usage electrical devices such as electric vehicle chargers and central heating systems in British homes."

"Under the plans all homes would need to have a third generation smart meter installed, to include a function that allows meters in the home to receive and carry out orders made by the energy networks."

"When energy networks are allowed to declare an 'emergency', triggering their right to switch off private domestic energy devices, is also so far undefined. "

jacko555 · 25 Nov 2020

You can all now make matching tin foil hats for your smart meters to stop big brother turning your power off

Brigadier · 25 Nov 2020

jacko555 said:
You can all now make matching tin foil hats for your smart meters to stop big brother turning your power off

As Kurt Cobain so eloquently put it,

"Just because you're paranoid,
Don't mean they're not after you."

Trazor · 25 Nov 2020

There is no benefit to consumers, only extra costs.

But of course Energy companies will pass on any savings they make.....

Harry Bloomfield · 25 Nov 2020

Ihavenojob said:
If you want a smart meter, have one, if you don't want one, don't have one. It's not compulsory to have one.

ellal said:
Really?

"The Government is considering giving energy networks the power to switch off a household's energy supply without warning or compensation for those affected.
A series of 'modifications' to the Smart Energy Code have been proposed by officials and look set to pass into law by next spring (2021).
These include giving networks the right to decide when they consider the grid to be in a state of 'emergency' and the power to switch off high usage electrical devices such as electric vehicle chargers and central heating systems in British homes."

"Under the plans all homes would need to have a third generation smart meter installed, to include a function that allows meters in the home to receive and carry out orders made by the energy networks."

"When energy networks are allowed to declare an 'emergency', triggering their right to switch off private domestic energy devices, is also so far undefined. "

What alternative would you propose, when there is not enough energy to meet the demand in an emergency? Before SM's the only option was to simply switch entire areas off. SM's and smart appliances provide the option to reduce consumption on an individual basis and where consumption can be delayed. The elderly can keep there power and heating on, whilst a fit family next door can be left without power for an hour in an emergency.

ellal · 25 Nov 2020

Harry Bloomfield said:
What alternative would you propose, when there is not enough energy to meet the demand in an emergency?

Here's a thought...

A bit of forward planning and not always follow the 'profit before people' approach?

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