New roof just done (is this a bodged job?)

mrrusty · 3 Nov 2020

Don't throw good money after bad.

I wouldn't spend more money on more surveys.

Personally, I think you have given him a chance to correct, and had a specialist (new roofer) say it is carp - presumably he will write this down. I wouldn't bother with a further survey that will cost you, as I say, I would write off the payment for the first work in your mind, but go after them in the courts. IMHO the photos + the opportunity to rectify + the other roofers report should be enough to win, but nothing is certain. If you win, treat it as a bonus. This sort of situation can grind you down - don't let it!.

The fact that he billed (and hopefully you do have an invoice!) from his personal business and not the ltd. is better - If you win you have a lot more leverage, either using sherriffs or e.g. these guys https://cobrafinancial.co.uk/?utm_term=cobra financial&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&gclid=CjwKCAiAnIT9BRAmEiwANaoE1YbDScyatI8401SmaD2V_KvQMTo2FzdH56maaHN-Mq7idyUZ9cnNPBoC32kQAvD_BwE - yes I have used them, and one of the testimonials is mine.

We didn't bother with small claims - just sent "the boys round". In your case you do need to win in court first because the quality of the work is subjective, it isn't just a debt.

Just read "no invoice" - this could give you additional leverage. I would try once more to get a refund, but this time I would suggest that if he refuses, he will most likely find himself reported to HMRC and VAT - he's obviously trying to fiddle somebody...

jacoscar · 30 Nov 2020

I just found out he has an unpaid CCJ for £300 from 2016
I doubt he’ll pay me £3800 even if I win... am I right?

mrrusty · 30 Nov 2020

I just found out he has an unpaid CCJ for £300 from 2016
I doubt he’ll pay me £3800 even if I win... am I right?

Whether you trade with him personally or as a company, as long as he has assets you can get at him. Yes, the court process is long and drawn out, but if you win you can send in the sheriffs who have very strong powers (much more than debt collectors).

For debt collectors and sheriffs, I can recommend this crew - we used these guys to successfully collect an unpaid debt (without going to court) - one of their references is ours. https://cobrafinancial.co.uk/

datarebal · 30 Nov 2020

£3800.00 was that the cost of supply and fix? If it was all you need is the cost to put it right. Its a small roof and shouldn't cost a lot.

SUNRAY · 24 Oct 2021

Was there any update on this?

A neighbour is going through something similar at the moment.

jacoscar · 24 Oct 2021

SUNRAY said:
Was there any update on this?

A neighbour is going through something similar at the moment.

Yes, I started a small claim against Mr Teddy Jones TCI Homes and then we went through mediation, which was just a one hour phone call where the mediator speaks to the claimant and defendant multiple times in turn

We eventually agreed that the defendant was to instruct a different roofer to complete the job by removing the old felt, fixing the dry verge, redo the lead around the chimney and fix any leaks
The new roofer did the lead properly, added new felt where it hadn’t been installed properly, and secured the dry verge, it still doesn’t look straight because the found out the battens were too short (flush with the external wall)
The guys who did these fixes were pretty astonished that they had to fix things that any other roofer would have got right the first time.

Not the ideal outcome, but we didn’t want to go through the stress of a court hearing as the mediator also alluded to the fact that the judge might or might not accept the evaluation from another roofer and we couldn’t find anyone that could do a proper independent evaluation.
The agreement also required the defendant to provide proper invoice and guarantee but that never happened.

Gazr · 30 Jan 2022

23vc said:
Tell them to do the top row of tiles properly

Gauge was out.

datarebal · 30 Jan 2022

jacoscar said:
it still doesn’t look straight because the found out the battens were too short (flush with the external wall)

Bit lame leaving them .

AndyG81 · 11 Feb 2022

Apologies to hijack thread but didn't want to start a new one. Outwith major issues original poster had with his roof here, he asked about the white marks at bottom of tiles.

I've recently just had new roof fitted and happy with the job however we have the same tiles and also have these white marks appearing. Roof is only 2 weeks old. Is this normal on these types of tiles or should we be looking for replacement? It does seem to be on every tile

Thanks

datarebal · 11 Feb 2022

It's pretty normal to get some scuffing from movement with in the pallets in transport.
It will fade quickly and you will not even see it

jacoscar · 11 Feb 2022

AndyG81 said:
Apologies to hijack thread but didn't want to start a new one. Outwith major issues original poster had with his roof here, he asked about the white marks at bottom of tiles.

I've recently just had new roof fitted and happy with the job however we have the same tiles and also have these white marks appearing. Roof is only 2 weeks old. Is this normal on these types of tiles or should we be looking for replacement? It does seem to be on every tile

Thanks

I’m the OP, those white lines on my tiles were gone after a few days, so don’t worry about that

In the last couple of months some light moss has suddenly appered
They told me they were antifungal tiles, but after all the lies they’ve thrown at me who knows?

datarebal · 11 Feb 2022

jacoscar said:
antifungal tiles

Jackanory

twinbricks · 12 Feb 2022

jacoscar said:
I’m the OP, those white lines on my tiles were gone after a few days, so don’t worry about that

In the last couple of months some light moss has suddenly appered
They told me they were antifungal tiles, but after all the lies they’ve thrown at me who knows?

Are these concrete interlocking tiles? Do you remember the brand?

datarebal · 12 Feb 2022

they are concrete interlocking tiles. probably marley moderns

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