Pipe centres < width of radiator

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Evening,

I'm after some pointers/opinions please?

I'm looking to replace a 1000mm wide radiator with a 1200mm wide one.
The pipes currently come up out of the floor in copper, straight up and into the valves.

I don't want to lift the carpet and rearrange the pipework under the floor, which I know is the best/correct option.

Will it look rough if I centre the new, wider radiator over the pipes and then pipe up two equal-sized offsets in copper either side?

I've tried to Google examples to see what it would look like, but can't find any, which makes me think it's not the done thing because it looks gash.

Are there any other options I've not considered?

Thanks!
 
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I would go for the 'best option', because ever more I would be looking at those pipes and thinking I could have done it properly and with not much more effort.
 
Do what you have to do, will be ok

Thanks!

I would go for the 'best option', because ever more I would be looking at those pipes and thinking I could have done it properly and with not much more effort.

It's the destructive part of lifting the carpet which I'm worried about. It seems to have been glued in places.
But otherwise, yes, a good approach to live by.
 
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Get a plumber who's good with pipework.
Hang new radiator centre of existing pipes. (Exact)
Extend verticle pipes to the underside of the new rad. (Tight)
Fit M&F copper 90's from the valves along the underside (Horizontal) to meet the vertical pipes.

Well soldered, Spray painted straight pipes will look ok.

The key is to get a good plumber. There are some shockers out there who don't know how to use copper
 
Why are you going for a 1200 wide radiator? Is is it single, double or a P+?
 
Evening,

I'm after some pointers/opinions please?

I'm looking to replace a 1000mm wide radiator with a 1200mm wide one.
The pipes currently come up out of the floor in copper, straight up and into the valves.

I don't want to lift the carpet and rearrange the pipework under the floor, which I know is the best/correct option.

Will it look rough if I centre the new, wider radiator over the pipes and then pipe up two equal-sized offsets in copper either side?

I've tried to Google examples to see what it would look like, but can't find any, which makes me think it's not the done thing because it looks gash.

Are there any other options I've not considered?

Thanks!
Any reason the new rad has to be on same centre as the old? If not you could leave one pipe as is and have a bigger offset on the other. Less work.
 
Get a plumber who's good with pipework.
Hang new radiator centre of existing pipes. (Exact)
Extend verticle pipes to the underside of the new rad. (Tight)
Fit M&F copper 90's from the valves along the underside (Horizontal) to meet the vertical pipes.

Well soldered, Spray painted straight pipes will look ok.

The key is to get a good plumber. There are some shockers out there who don't know how to use copper

Sounds good, thanks.

Why are you going for a 1200 wide radiator? Is is it single, double or a P+?

Because I can't go for a taller one and need to increase the heat output.
I'm replacing a single/type 11 with a slightly larger P+/type 21 as the heat loss calculations suggest that's the only way I'll do it.
It's a bedroom, but wasn't used as one until recently, so the poor performance of the current radiator wasn't an issue.
As it's got colder, it's become apparent that it can't raise the room temperature past 17°c.

Any reason the new rad has to be on same centre as the old? If not you could leave one pipe as is and have a bigger offset on the other. Less work.

True, but it's under a window, so it would look odd doing it that way because of where it is.
Otherwise I'd agree.
 
Personally unless the floor comes up easy, I'd keep the same pipe centres and fit a 1000mm type 21. You're adding a whole extra panel so the extra output should be significant. The heat loss calcs are all an approximation and they all give different values when I've used them.

The pipes are going to need to enter a bit further off the wall too so factor that in.
 
To answer your question yes, it will be an eyesore. Do it right, get someone in who knows how to do the work. If it costs a £100 - £200 weigh that against looking at dog leg pipework for the next 20 years and thinking why? You'll forget the money it cost in a month or so.
 
Could you not go 700mm high x 1000mmm wide.?

Windowsill prevents that I'm afraid.
A 400mm only just fits between the skirting and the sill.

Personally unless the floor comes up easy, I'd keep the same pipe centres and fit a 1000mm type 21. You're adding a whole extra panel so the extra output should be significant. The heat loss calcs are all an approximation and they all give different values when I've used them.

The pipes are going to need to enter a bit further off the wall too so factor that in.

I'm considering that, but wondering if I'll go to all that effort and then find that it's still not good enough.

I'm assuming two elbows and a short length of copper will normally get me sufficient extra clearance? Or a regular elbow and a street if that's too tight?
 
Windowsill prevents that I'm afraid.
A 400mm only just fits between the skirting and the sill.



I'm considering that, but wondering if I'll go to all that effort and then find that it's still not good enough.

I'm assuming two elbows and a short length of copper will normally get me sufficient extra clearance? Or a regular elbow and a street if that's too tight?

Yes, you'll be able to get the offset with elbows/streets. 135 elbows will give the smallest offset.
 

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