Help on regs please

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No people will have to take dumps out the window and wear umbrella hats.

FFS, who the hell even said I was a landlord? pmsl

It amazes me how many people don't bother to read things properly, how is it your allowed to vote?
 
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Im renovating a house, hope it's not a silly question, is there a legal requirement to provide hot water? Asking about is there any regs for tenancy and also whether it would affect resale as not sure what I'll do yet.

I was going to strip the old immersion heater tank out, bath out, just put an electric shower in and use cold water at all the taps, maybe add a water boiler at kitchen sink for dishes if required (I use a kettle).

As i don't know what im doing yet would tenants be able to argue a need for hot water at bathroom sink? Its an old property with no mains gas or wet central heating, so thinking of not going the standard combi boiler route, but regs may well force my hands!! Any ideas? Cheers
 
Exactly nothing about roof or flushing toilet, no need to be sarcastic.

It's a genuine question I've never needed to use 60 degree water at a bathroom sink just for washing hands, it seems so wasteful and environmentally unfriendly, not only that 60 degrees in non mixer taps is ludicrous, you have to keep swapping between the two taps quickly!!

I didn't know if its a regs requirement, hence the question, but I'll look into it thanks to the helpful people pointing me in the right direction. Obviously I'm not expecting anyone to have cold showers, unless they want one of course lol.
 
I'm not sure if maybe you have missed the news but there is currently a global pandemic that requires that hands be washed thoroughly in hot water. If you rent this property out to a family with small children who are unable to wash their hands in warm water when they use the toilet I would say that's not very hygienic. IF you rent it out you will be making money out of people, they will be paying you to live in a property that should be of a certain standard, that's all I'm saying. Will you be informing them before they sign on the dotted line, with probably 3 months rent up front, that they will not have hot water in the basins? And when the shower breaks and it's the only source of hot water to have a wash and takes at least 2 or 3 days to replace, will that be a fair situation for them? It gives all landlords a bad name!

Andy
 
The OP asked, what, on the face of it, was a serious question insofar as he asked if he let a place out to a tenant does he have to provide hot water. They were YOUR words, OP.
You asked if you could .... just put an electric shower in and use cold water at all the taps.

I SAY AGAIN - They were YOUR words, OP.

But then, having dug yourself into a hole you realised your mistake and retaliated with abuse.

As has been stated, YOU might not want the luxury of running hot water at the taps but it wasn't a good idea to imagine that most other people who might be looking to rent your property would share your views.

Why am I thinking you won't be receiving much more in the way of constructive advice that you came on here in search of?
 
Ok lesson learned, we have established hot water must be provided at the bathroom sinks. Obviously I don't like 60 degree water in a single tap as people can burn their hands. So I am assuming mixer taps are the best way forward for the sinks?

Please could someone advise on suitable options available for achieving this in an off mains gas house? There is no wet central heating (currently night storage), so really combi boilers are out. I'd like to remove the immersion heater tank if possible as I don't think it's efficient for me (or someone else) to heat gallons of water on the off chance that someone might want a few pints of warm water to wash their hands.

So could electric shower, electric mixer tap at all sinks satisfy regs? Is there such a thing as an electric mixer tap, I've seen the old style water boiler taps, but I'm looking for a more modern cleaner look.
 
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"No people will have to take dumps out the window and wear umbrella hats.

FFS, who the hell even said I was a landlord? pmsl

It amazes me how many people don't bother to read things properly, how is it your allowed to vote?"


And these were your words, too, OP.

So you reckon you can speak to well intentioned respondents who freely provide common sense and technical advice like that - and then come back with your tail between your legs?

Good luck with that, matey.


 
Whatever your true intention, your initial post and follow-up comments came across as you trying to get some sort of "most tight-fisted landlord" award. The idea of not providing hot water to all basins/baths/sinks etc wouldn't even enter most people's heads. It just looks like you're trying to do the absolute bear minimum you can get away with, and cut corners where possible.

As for what you can do, yes individual water heaters at each location could work, but you'd have to be careful not to exceed the capacity of the electric supply. Those things use a lot of power. Is there anywhere you could put gas bottles and have a gas-fired water heater?
 
You could have stored hot water in a cylinder via immersion heaters, or even renewable energy. Stored hot water has to be 60 degrees to kill any bacteria such as legionella, then you could provide mixer taps, but the risk is of burns is still there, you could opt for a thermostatic mixing valve (TMV).
 
Thank you guys, didn't intend to come across as wanting to do the minimum, I'm well aware it needs modernising hence looking at options for renovation. I also don't particularly like complication or over engineering solutions to a problem.

I'd prefer an all electric solution. Theres also no rads or piping so that rules out a combi boiler unless I opt for whole new install of LPG combi with rads. Theres currently an immersion heater and hot water cylinder for hot water, but I don't find this an efficient way to provide heat to taps, so my options are getting limited.

I think I'll look into the electric shower, with electric on demand taps at the basins and with newer upgraded quantum storage heaters it should be more homely and compliant with regs. Cheers all for the help. I know gas combi with wet central heating is probably the norm, but it's difficult to do here and don't really want LPG.
 

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