That small white pipe going into the black shower waste is from the boiler room
Stinky bathroom
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That small white pipe going into the black shower waste is from the boiler room
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I went to one of these recently, turned out to be dead mouse under floorboards.
Damn.....
from the areas I can reach which is literally behind the toilet and the flexi pipe there is no water or leakage.
im in 2 minds to get that replaced at the moment.
don’t see any gurgling whatsoever in the toilet or basin or shower. Same even when I have shower on, basin on and flushing toilet at the same time
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I removed the gaffa tape from both basin and shower. Now the odd thing is that the stench seems stronger in the shower area
One thing I noticed. When I flush the toilet I notice the water level in the shower trap moves around. Could this affect anything?
Yes, could well be your issue. Would suggest there is an issue with the pipework, causing air to be displaced when the WC is flushed. If this air is being forced out of the shower trap, it may well be the root of your problem. Have you notice the water rising more than usual in the WC pan when it is flushed?
The water level in wc pan is the same. I have the same Roka toilet in family bathroom and the levels seem identical.
i got some mr muscle drain cleaner so will give that a shot in the shower and sink
I have already advised that acid will do little to help and in fact could cause more damage than it repairs, especially with a flexi pan connector. By far and away the best way of clearing any blockage is by mechanical means, that is indeed if you have a blockage! Your problem does not lie in the shower and/or basin pipework, it will be elsewhere in the system.
ah I didn’t think the mr muscle was acid. Put that away for a refund at Sainsbury’s.
as everything seems flowing well what do you think could be the possible problems. Off course these will all be assumptions.
just stuck what to do as next steps and any work will require smashing up tiles
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doing another process of elimination. I have now scotch taped extractor, gaffa taped sink+vent, gaffa taped shower, the open drafty area by pan and where the flexi pipe is I have now shoved some insulation there and blocked up with cardboard. This should in theory stop every possible smell. If it still smells then it’s pipes under sink or the pipework under shower tray in room.
if no smell, then I will open up one thing at a time. I am hoping it’s not the big vented area where the pan/flexi pipe meets the soil pipe into the wall as that will mean problems with the pipework potentially going to the stack
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Get your money back, awful, dangerous stuff, and shouldn't be on sale to the General Public in my view. It's no good for cleaning drains and too many Dickheads ready to throw it in the face of the next person they take a dislike to.
Still say the problem lies with pressure issues in the pipework, as you flush the WC, if the pipework is sealed with an AAV at the top, and there is an issue downstream, the water flushed needs to displace the same volume of air. If it cant vent naturally, then it's looking for the next easiest way out, in this case possibly the shower. Issue is you've a more convoluted soil pipe setup than usual, can you get access to the section within the building to inspect it?
Still say the problem lies with pressure issues in the pipework, as you flush the WC, if the pipework is sealed with an AAV at the top, and there is an issue downstream, the water flushed needs to displace the same volume of air. If it cant vent naturally, then it's looking for the next easiest way out, in this case possibly the shower. Issue is you've a more convoluted soil pipe setup than usual, can you get access to the section within the building to inspect it?
no access whatsoever without smashing.
ie to access ensuite area means braking up the boxing around soil then removing part of the wall to see the 90 Deg bend.
the straight from the above Bend to the stack is then behind the tiled wall in the family bathroom.
then the rest of it before going vertically down to the ground is above my kitchen ceiling in the flat roof. The vertical part is boxed at the end of my kitchen
hope the picture below shows roughly the connectivity between the 2 bathrooms.in the ensuite the toilet faces the left which is why there is a 90 deg Bend in the wall before connecting to a straight into family bathroom. The toilet in the family bathroom also has its own seperate soil pipe. See pics of family bathroom that was hidden in the back before tiled up. You can see the toilet soil pipe. I think the ensuite soil pipe runs behind that
if you take a look at the last picture zoomed in. I can just about see a grey pipe at the top circled in yellow. What I don’t know is whether that was where the old stack was connecting upto the vent in the loft and since the extension they routed the soil pipes to somehow connect at the flat roof. So I am not sure whether the vent in the loft is even connected. Is there any way to test if the vent pipe is connected to system?
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Might be worth talking to a local drainage company, see if they are able to put a scope down the pipework whilst the WC is removed and see if there's anything untoward hiding in there that could be causing an issue. Afraid it looks a bit of a lash up in the pics you've posted, bits joined on and a mix of above and below ground 110mm fittings appear to have been used. Not a major issue as all boxed in, but not best practice in my opinion.
Also looks to be a poor fall on the 110mm, which may well be a part of the issue if other sections haven't been installed with due diligence.
Also looks to be a poor fall on the 110mm, which may well be a part of the issue if other sections haven't been installed with due diligence.
what’s your thoughts on the vent in the loft? Apologies I edited the previous post and added the below:
if you take a look at the last picture zoomed in. I can just about see a grey pipe at the top circled in yellow. What I don’t know is whether that was where the old stack was connecting upto the vent in the loft and since the extension they routed the soil pipes to somehow connect at the flat roof. So I am not sure whether the vent in the loft is even connected. Is there any way to test if the vent pipe is connected to system?
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Can you see/find the vent pipe in the loft? Also, perhaps some external pictures with a guide to whereabouts the soil pipe runs would help pinpoint any possible troublespots.
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