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In my boy's flat the landlord has installed a mains smoke alarm and connected it to the consumer unit with the 6A lights mcb.
Does this job need to be done by a qualified electrician?
As far as I know anything that involves opening the consumer unit must be done by a qualified electrician.
Am I wrong?
 
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Yes you are wrong. Anyone can do electrical work, though some things need notifying.

You should be pleased your son has a caring landlord not trying to find fault.
 
Yes you are wrong. Anyone can do electrical work, though some things need notifying.

You should be pleased your son has a caring landlord not trying to find fault.
The landlord is a housing association who once broke into my boy's flat for being in arrears with service charges.
Very caring...
 
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A qualified electrician was either of two types, skilled or competent, but latter was dropped, but skilled means "A person with technical knowledge or sufficient experience to enable him/her to avoid dangers which electricity may create." it does not mean he has a City & Guilds certificate or apprenticeship deeds. So yes the work should be done by a skilled person, but it is possible that for that work the landlord is considered skilled.

There is a scheme member electrician, which means they pay an annual fee to be able to do some work and inform the LABC after complete rather than before it is started and it costs them less for each notification. That does not make them any better than an industrial electrician in fact likely less skilled, but it does allow them to self certify.

Any electrical work should include inspecting and testing and the issue of a minor works or installation certificate. However it is only I think required to give tenants a copy of the electrical installation condition report (EICR) every 5 years, don't think they have the right to view the other paperwork, but not sure on that, a new law has come in, and where the installation certificate is under 5 years old an EICR is not required, so maybe he does need to be provided with copies of installation certificates and minor works certificates now?

It was forbidden for electricians to pass on the certificates to the tenant, it had to be given to owner, who in turn could give a copy to tenant, but not sure if that has changed.
 
So in other words:
Anybody can tap wires into the consumer unit without telling anyone, as long as the consider themselves skilled enough...
Correct?
 
I don't know if the regs allow the lighting MCB to be used but IMO it's pretty stupid to use the lighting MCB (given that lights can often pop and take out the MCB) for a safety device.
 
So in other words:
Anybody can tap wires into the consumer unit without telling anyone, as long as the consider themselves skilled enough...
Correct?
Depends upon if "they consider themselves" is actually true or if they are lying to themselves about being competent.. :)
 
Depends upon if "they consider themselves" is actually true or if they are lying to themselves about being competent.. :)

Well, I'm confident and competent and have legally/legitimately worked in countless consumer units but I'm not qualified to do so.
 
It makes sense for a landlord to fit anything electrical he wants fitting, then have an electrical installation condition report done, so all his work is inspected and tested when that report is done.

I have as an electrician had to call the alarm company who was reasonable for the monitoring of both intruder and fire to remove wires which did not comply from electrical tray work, it would seem the so called alarm engineers were not electricians, so even if the landlord employed an outside firm to do the job, likely he would not be a time served electrician either.
 
It makes sense for a landlord to fit anything electrical he wants fitting, then have an electrical installation condition report done, so all his work is inspected and tested when that report is done.

I have as an electrician had to call the alarm company who was reasonable for the monitoring of both intruder and fire to remove wires which did not comply from electrical tray work, it would seem the so called alarm engineers were not electricians, so even if the landlord employed an outside firm to do the job, likely he would not be a time served electrician either.
So how does that work with signing off the installation docs?
 
I'm surprised by saying not to put smokes on the lighting cct. I would have though that would have made sense, then at least if it trips you would know about it.

What am I missing, why would it be a bad idea, and how would they be fed?

Just asking out of interest - when I had my house rewired I didn't ask for smoke detectors, and just fitted battery ones after the event.

Cheers,
Colin
 

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