Someone is lying...

Who is lying?

  • Boris

    Votes: 8 66.7%
  • His Scientific advisors

    Votes: 4 33.3%

  • Total voters
    12
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Not mine, but worth a read.

"It is perfectly legitimate to interrogate individual pieces of Covid data…but what you also have to do – if you are genuinely trying to deal in truth and fact – is align those pieces of data. So, it is conceivable there are flaws in testing. And Covid admissions data. And mortality data…but – and this is the crucial point – it is not conceivable that those flaws align in the way we are currently seeing. For example, false positives would not account for a rise in admissions. But we are seeing all three surging. Concurrently. In precisely the way we would expect in the midst of a pandemic.

To believe the hypothesis posed by the sceptics you also have to believe this. Either those charged with monitoring the nation’s health – the CMO, CSA, their colleagues in the regions, Ministers, officials – are unaware of the data flaws identified...and despite their decades of cumulative experience, they are making major public health decisions totally oblivious to the catastrophic misreading of the data the amateur lock-down sceptic sleuths have uncovered...or they are aware of them. And – for reasons no one has yet rationally explained - are carrying on regardless, perpetuating one of the greatest public health hoaxes in history...

So, if you wish to embrace the lockdown-sceptics theory you also have to believe something else...which is what is happening in the UK – the erroneous testing data, admissions data, mortality data, the failure to identify it by the entire public health establishment – is all part of a staggering coincidence. And, that by a one in a billion chance the UK’s great false-pandemic scare just so happened to coincide with a genuine global pandemic.

Our false data surge – all those false positives and broken legs – happened just as a real pandemic was sweeping the rest of the globe. Because no-one disputes the Tsunami of cases and deaths we saw in March and April was the product of the annual winter flu season. So as I say, believe what you want to believe. But if you genuinely care about facts and the truth, there is only one conclusion you can draw. The pandemic isn’t a hoax, it’s here, and it represents a real and present danger to the health of our nation."

Dan Hodges
 
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Because it is nothing more than a severe strain of the flu.

You're right. It's just like Spanish Flu, that killed 220,000 Brits in 2 years. We're one year in and 102,000 dead, so very much like bad flu.

Nothing at all like normal seasonal flu though.
 
You're right. It's just like Spanish Flu, that killed 220,000 Brits in 2 years. We're one year in and 102,000 dead, so very much like bad flu.

Nothing at all like normal seasonal flu though.
https://lloydspharmacy.com/blogs/cold-and-flu/when-is-flu-season
And I quote
Though December-March is the peak season for flu, outbreaks can occur as late as May. Flu viruses can also begin to spread in early autumn, usually from October onwards.
(So that is October to May which is , an 8 month period. )


And I also quote:-

It’s also worth noting that – although the flu is far more common during the autumn and winter – you can contract the virus at any time of the year if you come into contact with someone who is infected

WE ARE IN THE MIDST OF A FLU PANDEMIC (n)
 
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It isn't the flu! Coronavirus and the flu are different and require different vaccines..
http://www.emro.who.int/health-topi...onaviruses are a large family,Syndrome (SARS).
Shows your intelligence as a common cold can be part of a coronavirus.
But you know more than the world health organisation.
The isnt called coronavirus.
Covid 19 is the name they are using but the media always say x amount of people have/suffered/died of coronavirus.

There are multiple types of a coronavirus (even the common cold )
 
Yes, part of the larger family of viruses.

Covid 19 is a different virus to the flu one.
You keep changing. Multiple times you and the other scarily media led people on here keep saying “oh x amount of people died of coronavirus “
The media every day say “today we have x amount of new cases of coronavirus and x amount of deaths from coronavirus “ Coronavirus are lots of different viruses.
So the media are thus saying today we have “x amount of new cases and deaths of people suffering different viruses “
I keep telling people who for some reason are arguing against a issue I have not even said. what I have said from the start is the media reporting of the virus is wrong.
You say something and then I prove what you have said to be false and then You change your stance on what you have said .



How many different human coronaviruses are there?

Six species of human coronaviruses are known, with one species subdivided into two different strains, making seven strains of human coronaviruses altogether.
 
So a life has an associated valuation?
Umfortunately yes. In compensation,transplants etc..valuations need to be assigned to life.If you have no dependants..are 80 something..then you are not worth much..but yes..to your family you are priceless
 
Six species of human coronaviruses are known, with one species subdivided into two different strains, making seven strains of human coronaviruses altogether.

So what? What points are you actually trying to make?
 
So a life has an associated valuation?


I can't recall where it is stated but, yes, a life does: in fact, it has a £ value associated with it.
I know a man who'll know the exact reference where it is stated and, if I remember (and he answers) I'll post the source.

While a first glance harsh and "inhumane", it does make sense.
Money is not limitless.
If spending a £100M on x will likely save y lives, but spending the same on z will saver fewer lives, the decision might be either find more money, or save x lives.

IIRC, the monetary value a few years ago was £1.8 million.
 
Because it is nothing more than a severe strain of the flu.

You're right. It's just like Spanish Flu, that killed 220,000 Brits in 2 years. We're one year in and 107,000 dead, so very much like bad flu.

Nothing at all like normal seasonal flu though.
https://lloydspharmacy.com/blogs/cold-and-flu/when-is-flu-season
And I quote
Though December-March is the peak season for flu, outbreaks can occur as late as May. Flu viruses can also begin to spread in early autumn, usually from October onwards.
(So that is October to May which is , an 8 month period. )


And I also quote:-

It’s also worth noting that – although the flu is far more common during the autumn and winter – you can contract the virus at any time of the year if you come into contact with someone who is infected

WE ARE IN THE MIDST OF A FLU PANDEMIC (n)

Sorry John, but that is simply ballcocks. Flu and coronavirus are totally different things. Different like cats and dogs.

The fact that coronavirus raged across the world all last Spring and Summer puts your latest crackpot argument to rest. Christmas and snow also happen in winter, that does not mean Christmas and snow is the same as flu.

If you really think they are the same thing you need to take this up with the scientific medical community, not the DIY community. Good luck with that.

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