Just a thought:
If a cyclist runs into an opening car door, are they not passing too close?
If a cyclist runs into an opening car door, are they not passing too close?
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In which instance they would just be classed as idiots.
The car occupant? Quite agree. There are many reasons why it isn't always possible for a cyclist to avoid
passing a parked vehicle by a doors width.
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Is the road that narrow that only a bike width may pass?
Just wait for the right moment, it's called judgement.
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Nah, as usual they will hug close to the cars yet at other times will quite happily cycle in the middle of the road (I am not saying they are not allowed to do that) and then complain that they should not take any responsibility for their actions or inactions.
Other cyclists might just be aware of their surroundings, see a car pull up and think "now what is the driver likely about to do?" and take the appropriate action (if safe to do so) and pull out further
so that they are away from the door.
Well - unless they are called bleep-bloop.
Funny though, for someone who's profile says he's not in this country he sure whines about it's cyclists enough.
Other cyclists might just be aware of their surroundings, see a car pull up and think "now what is the driver likely about to do?" and take the appropriate action (if safe to do so) and pull out further
so that they are away from the door.
Well - unless they are called bleep-bloop.
Funny though, for someone who's profile says he's not in this country he sure whines about it's cyclists enough.
Presumably then, there must be an equal number of reasons why a car cannot avoid passing a cyclist by a similar width.
In the case of parked bicycles, I'd concur .
Yes it is a common occurrence and something that cyclist have to accept esp in urban built up areas with congestion, narrow roads etc. However many drivers do not like cyclist (see matty's quite appalling attitude) and seem to have little or no concern for their wellbeing and delight in abusing them despite the cyclist vulnerability's, tut tut! Some even refuse to adopt new ideas that could potentially save lives or serious injuries calling them useless suggestions but prefer to victim blame instead!
What you are saying then is that, there must be circumstances when a driver can unsafely overtake a cyclist?
Yes, there surely are, but only in very exceptional circumstances, and not as a matter of routine.
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You'll find that my "appalling attitude" is in response to your comments BB, while I take every effort to avoid injuring a cyclist (that's not appalling is it?) I feel that they could help themselves, prevent themselves from being injured by wearing appropriate clothing and using lighting to suit the conditions (is thinking this appalling?) I dont need to use the dutch reach at all because I look in my mirrors and around EVERY TIME I open the door (is that appalling of me?)
I NEVER said I opened my door into a cyclist, you'll note that I said "I nearly opened my car door on one wearing all black" meaning that I did not open it but nearly opened it, could have opened it - had I not looked first or had I not had a really good look (was that appalling of me?) With a quick look I would not have seen the cyclist because he wore all black and had a weak pathetic light that blended into the background.
Yet your quick and ready to fling the sheite at drivers who complain about cyclists who don't help themselves or drivers to keep them safe.
Sounds like your a typical cycling wanna go hero - wear a actioncam too by chance? friends with Mikey on youtube?
Always ready to blame others and not the d1ck's on 2 wheels that won't play fair.
I NEVER said I opened my door into a cyclist, you'll note that I said "I nearly opened my car door on one wearing all black" meaning that I did not open it but nearly opened it, could have opened it - had I not looked first or had I not had a really good look (was that appalling of me?) With a quick look I would not have seen the cyclist because he wore all black and had a weak pathetic light that blended into the background.
Yet your quick and ready to fling the sheite at drivers who complain about cyclists who don't help themselves or drivers to keep them safe.
Sounds like your a typical cycling wanna go hero - wear a actioncam too by chance? friends with Mikey on youtube?
Always ready to blame others and not the d1ck's on 2 wheels that won't play fair.
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Hobsons choice...pass close or get knocked off by the vehicle behind passing.too impatient to wait.
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I invariably see far more consideration given to cyclists in general on the continent, than in UK.
Maybe it's a traffic/population density issue.
According to this, UK is one of the safest places to be a cyclist in EU.
(2016 figures are the most up-to-date in it, but it was the top hit on Google, and is an EU official document).
Table 2: Percentage of cyclist fatalities of all road fatalities, 2007-2016 or latest available year - UK 6%, EU average 8%.
Table 3: Cyclist fatality rates per million population by country, 2007-2016 or latest available year - UK 1.6, EU average 4.0.
(2016 figures are the most up-to-date in it, but it was the top hit on Google, and is an EU official document).
Table 2: Percentage of cyclist fatalities of all road fatalities, 2007-2016 or latest available year - UK 6%, EU average 8%.
Table 3: Cyclist fatality rates per million population by country, 2007-2016 or latest available year - UK 1.6, EU average 4.0.
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I suspect the sheer numbers of cyclists in the various areas will affect the bare statistics.
The difference in consideration will, in turn, affect the propensity for cycling, as will the priority given to cycling lanes, etc.
On the continent, I frequently encounter groups of lycra clad cyclists. I very rarely encounter then when driving in UK.
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