Noisy pipes

There were two pipes on the wall behind the bathtub and two were over the floor board before and the waste pipe was directly on the outer wall . The plumber removed everything that was there and redid everything....

As advised we will get a joiner to come and check.... Thank you for your advice...
 
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There were two pipes on the wall behind the bathtub and two were over the floor board before and the waste pipe was directly on the outer wall . The plumber removed everything that was there and redid everything....

As advised we will get a joiner to come and check.... Thank you for your advice...

yeah what should have happened was the shower tray raised and the waste pipe run along the wall to the sink, but then boxed in. it wouldn't look as neat as what you currently have, but you wouldn't have structural issues.
 
We had no idea, only learning about these things now. We did ask him whether we should take the legs for the shower and plinth which were a part of the kit . He told us no as he has better way to install.. we just trusted him to do a good job. Yes, it does look nice but the safety should have been the priority. ....
Wish we had left the bathroom alone!
 
There were two pipes on the wall behind the bathtub and two were over the floor board before and the waste pipe was directly on the outer wall . The plumber removed everything that was there and redid everything....

Yep ... and that was done for a reason, because the joist were running the wrong way to the waste and they knew it couldn't go into the floor. The most you can get into a notched joist are the 22mm copper pipes, anything else is just too big. The black waste pipes should never have been dropped into the floor at right angles like that and that number of copper pipes should never have been sat side by side it all, it's just far too much.

He isn't a plumber, If he was a plumber he would have known that what he's done is criminal. As you say it's all a learning curve but If there is a silver lining it's that you've caught it and can now make it safe. Have you heard anything from the scheister?
 
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I wonder if it's possible, (once the ceiling is adequately supported!), to pop out those downlights and put a scope up through the holes, see if that can shed any more light on what the situation is, before pulling the ceiling down.
 
Yes or maybe just a strip of the ceiling, would be easier to repair and would take your joiner 5 minutes to do, once he's supported it.

It would be wonderful if you had super deep joists and even with what has happened to them they are still secure and not compromised ..... :unsure: ... but you really need to know sooner rather than later
 
This is how it is under the bathroom sink area.. boiler is directly underneath...
Regards

From the photo, it looks like you may be able to support everything from below and drop the ceiling, behind the RSJ, down by 6" or so and put new joists underneath!
 
Hey there,
I am afraid this plumber is not taking any responsibility for his actions. He is saying that the cut into the joists was already there and he did not cut even a little piece so it is not his problem . His work is fine . Also he is expecting us to know about Joists and pipework. We asked him if there was a problem with the joists, he should have told us. we could have done something about it then.
Please help
 
Hey there,
I am afraid this plumber is not taking any responsibility for his actions. He is saying that the cut into the joists was already there and he did not cut even a little piece so it is not his problem . His work is fine . Also he is expecting us to know about Joists and pipework. We asked him if there was a problem with the joists, he should have told us. we could have done something about it then.
Please help


You can tell newly cut joists from joists that were cut years back. And yes if whst he is saying is true he should have made you aware so the problem could be resolved.
 
From the photo, it looks like you may be able to support everything from below and drop the ceiling, behind the RSJ, down by 6" or so and put new joists underneath!
Looking at the joists, they appear to be no more than 4 inches deep = yet cut out or not they had a bath sitting on them . Is what we can see not the ceiling but a layer of sand/cement on a wooden framework = built in to suppress noise from the bathroom when the house was built ? Do you actually have deep joists - although probably notched too deep o_O
 
I don't know how deep it is.. he cut the joists to fit in five pipes . We know how it was before. Four pipes were on top of the floor board not between the joists.

He is saying his pipework is prefect , he didn't cut any joists and the bathroom is safe.
Regards
 
Can I just add that there is wiring under that floor i can see in the third image going close to and underneath all that pipework on the left hand side, also the third joist from the right there is a wire clipped to it that you can also see goes under all those pipes. How much of that wiring then is touching a hot pipe? I think that pipework has to be a minimum 25mm away from electrical cables but one of the qualified plumbers can confirm if i am correct on that. Would the qualified plumbers on here agree that needs urgent attention as well.
 
This joist looks was if it was cut years back. See how dark it is
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Could the first image be darker because it was burnt with a blow torch? So could also be recent cut.
 

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