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There is quite a bit more involved than just that
Absolutely, trying to be simplistic. The majority of people are not aware, nor do they care.
For Freesat a licence is needed, a TV licence.
New freesat boxes i believe now ask you for your TV licence number. If you don't have one you're denied bbc content, but you can still watch other channels.
 
When did the rules change?

Last time I was in contact with TV licensing it was required to receive all radio broadcasted TV channels [sat & freeview] and some [presumably BBC] streamed services.
 
When did the rules change?

Last time I was in contact with TV licensing it was required to receive all radio broadcasted TV channels [sat & freeview] and some [presumably BBC] streamed services.

The basic rules haven't changed a licence is still needed for all of the above. I installed a new TV a couple or so weeks ago, yet I don't recall having to provide proof we had a TV licence.
 
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The basic rules haven't changed a licence is still needed for all of the above. I installed a new TV a couple or so weeks ago, yet I don't recall having to provide proof we had a TV licence.
In the last 2 years I've purchased 7 TV's and 3 free view PVR's from a well known national store with a name like a spicey food. I was asked at POS for one PVR if I had a licence and a couple of weeks after buying another I received a threatening letter which I ignored. The irony is only 2 of these products are for my use and due to living in sin the licence at home is not in my name. However having a business account at the store, every purchase I make is fully documented to my home address.
 
Re Licencing... A, A lifetime licence is granted on the purchase of the hardware perhaps?
That's what I've been saying as what I have always 'assumed' - that when one purchases the hardware (beit a phone, a 'repater') or whatever, it comes with an implicit licence, arranged by the manufacturer.
... Home WiFi, Drones ....
Some thing are licence-exempt.
.... GPS Devices, Freesat for example, i'm sure there are others ...
Those are 'receive only' situations, so it's rather different.
There are situations where an end user does need to register to be licenced..... Ham Radio!? I think this is now free if you register online, but you must still be registered even though it's now free.
That may now be true but, if so, it's a new one on me. 50+ years on, I'm still paying every year for my licence, and it took a lot more than just money (and/or 'registering') to get the licence in the first place :)

Kind Regards, John
 
That may now be true but, if so, it's a new one on me. 50+ years on, I'm still paying every year for my licence, and it took a lot more than just money (and/or 'registering') to get the licence in the first place :)

Then you should not be :( You still need to maintain your licence as valid, but it is free and lasts 10 years(I think).
 
In the last 2 years I've purchased 7 TV's and 3 free view PVR's from a well known national store with a name like a spicey food. I was asked at POS for one PVR if I had a licence and a couple of weeks after buying another I received a threatening letter which I ignored.
I have to say that, now that TVs (hence the theoretical need for TV licences) are so ubiquitous, I think that the concept of UK TV licences is out-dated. If the BBC simply got their money out of 'general taxation', not only would that eliminate the costs of collecting the licence fees and policing the non-payers, but it would also seemingly be more 'equitable' - in that those on low incomes, who pay less in taxes, would effectively be paying less for their use of TVs.

Kind Regards, John
 
Then you should not be :( You still need to maintain your licence as valid, but it is free and lasts 10 years(I think).
Correct, it has been free now for a good number of years. I believe the licence is open ended, however it has to be 'maintained' every 10 years by logging on [or phoning] to confirm it's still wanted and details are correct.
 
Then you should not be :( You still need to maintain your licence as valid, but it is free and lasts 10 years(I think).
Interesting. Maybe I'm wrong - I need to examine my Direct Debits :)

I clearly still have a valid licence, since I still receive communications about it (like the "Dear Licence Holder" one relating to EMF regulations, part of which I recently posted here) - but I don't recall having had to do anything to 'maintain the licence as valid' - maybe I've forgotten about that, too :)

Kind Regards, John
 
No transmitting kit is 'licence free'.

Some type approved things [and usually very low powered] are licence exempt which is a different thing. in this case the licence is granted to the type approval holder and a certificate issued with every bit of kit [think about the line of stickers on laptops] further documentation/payment is not required, such as WiFi, some radio microphones [on a very few frequencies], car key fobs, PMR446 walkie talkies etc.

Oher things require a licence for the whole system; as mentioned before a private mobile radio, taxi for example, will have a single licence to cover their operators, dealers will hold a dealer licence to enable the short term hire such as for an event like a marathon or a new taxi customer prior to a new licence being issued.

Other services will have a licence per transmitter, such as a local radio station like Capital radio.

Some hold a license for a service which is then granted a notice of variation [for a fee] depending on what is required at the time; example an outside broadcast station requiring a link back to the studio may need a video channel, a music channel, fold back [so OB can hear the studio] a talk back for director to instruct camera man etc. comms for engineers. Small time users will have to apply for this each time but regulars [think BBC, Sky etc] will have multiple full time channels.

Amateur radio is quite simply a special case where quite a lot of radio spectrum is allocated with relatively little restriction which was for self training purposes but has changed significantly in the last 100 years. BBC itself started in that way with a call sign 2LO [London but soon turned into 'hello'].

OTT as usual...
 
When did the rules change?

Last time I was in contact with TV licensing it was required to receive all radio broadcasted TV channels [sat & freeview] and some [presumably BBC] streamed services.

As far as i'm aware you only need a TV Licence if your TV / device is tuned to receive bbc channels even if you don't watch bbc channels.

So if your TV or device is sophisticated enough you could disable bbc channels or manually retune all bbc channels to some other channel or frequency. Then you can use that TV / device to watch NON BBC channels without the need to have a TV Licence.

So when someone knocks on your door and says you're watching TV without a TV licence you can prove to them that you're not watching nor is the TV or device capable of receiving a BBC broadcast. No licence required.

Not having a TV licence doesn't stop you from having a TV without a licence in other ways too. If there is no aerial or dish connected to it therefore it's incapable of receiving a broadcast altogether then it becomes a monitor that you can use to watch DVD Films for example. You can't watch a program via the bbc iPlayer either though, but you can watch other streaming services and the ITV Hub etc.
 
.... in this case the licence is granted to the type approval holder and a certificate issued with every bit of kit [think about the line of stickers on laptops] further documentation/payment is not required, such as WiFi, some radio microphones [on a very few frequencies], car key fobs, PMR446 walkie talkies etc.
As I've been saying, I had assumed that this was the case with mobile phones and hence, by extension, probably any associated 'GSM repeaters' which are manufactured and sold.

Kind Regards, john
 
As far as i'm aware you only need a TV Licence if your TV / device is tuned to receive bbc channels even if you don't watch bbc channels.
This is the problem with the internet. Anyone can make up anything they like and present it as fact.

9.—[F1(1) Subject to paragraph (2), in Part 4 of the Act (licensing of TV reception), “television receiver” means any apparatus installed or used for the purpose of receiving (whether by means of wireless telegraphy or otherwise)—

(a)any television programme service, or

(b)an on-demand programme service which is provided by the BBC,
 

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