Surely this is wrong.......

Bruce McGuinness · 3 Apr 2021

I am not an electrician and this is NOT my work. The under-cabinet light fitting is metal and plastic as can be seen in the first picture. There are live, neutral and earth wires clearly visible inside the fitting, however, at the other end, where the fitting is connected to the mains, the earth wire has been cut, ie. is not connected to anything.

This lot was left uncovered on top of the unit - second picture.

The final picture also shows terminal block lying exposed on top of another unit.

I’d appreciate thoughts and words of wisdom from any pros that may read this.

Thanks.

333rocky333 · 3 Apr 2021

Its not clear from the pics but looks like double insulated transformers which do not need an earth connection and the lights and the cables back to the transformers run at 12 volt so do not need an earth to them.
Though technically the earth wires within the 240v mains cables should be connected even if not used.
The 240v mains cables and the output connections to the lights even though 12 volt, should really be in an enclosure.

plugwash · 3 Apr 2021

It looked to me like the light in the picture was tapped off the mains side, and the transformer was for another light.

Either way though, it needs cleaning up, anything that needs an earth needs to get one and all mains connections need to be in suitable enclosures.

Bruce McGuinness · 4 Apr 2021

Thank you both for your responses. The light in the first image is indeed connected to a mains supply, taken from the mains feed to the transformer. This transformer powers another (12v) under-cabinet light.

From what you both indicate, it wouldn’t be unreasonable for me to expect this to be remedied by the ‘electrician’ who did the work.

Thanks again.

pcaouolte · 4 Apr 2021

Did you get a Minor Electrical Installation Works Certificate from the electrician? The professional body on the certificate might show and interest if the electrician won't correct it.

Bruce McGuinness · 4 Apr 2021

We live in a private rental property so anything like that would go directly to the property management company. I’ve made them aware of my concerns so I’m assuming they’ll instruct the electrician to make amends. Thanks pcaouolte.

dannyboi2003 · 5 Apr 2021

That’s a Robus Commodore LED under cabinet kitchen light. Yes they do need to be earthed, whoever installed it was not an electrician, those connections can’t be left exposed on the top of the cabinet either.

This is a link to the light fitting: https://robus.com/catalogue/kitchen...gular-cabinet-light-ip20-brushed-chrome-3000k

I wouldn’t want that ‘electrician’ back in the house myself but I suspect your landlord/rental company will send the same person back.

Let us know what happens.

Bruce McGuinness · 5 Apr 2021

Thanks dannyboi2003. Watch this space................

aptsys · 7 Apr 2021

dannyboi2003 said:
That’s a Robus Commodore LED under cabinet kitchen light. Yes they do need to be earthed, whoever installed it was not an electrician, those connections can’t be left exposed on the top of the cabinet either.

This is a link to the light fitting: https://robus.com/catalogue/kitchen...gular-cabinet-light-ip20-brushed-chrome-3000k

I wouldn’t want that ‘electrician’ back in the house myself but I suspect your landlord/rental company will send the same person back.

Let us know what happens.

They can, but they shouldn't

Document with photos, and call your landlord to sort. A Class I fitting with no earth is not acceptable.

Bruce McGuinness · 7 Apr 2021

Thanks aptsys.

Bruce McGuinness · 7 Apr 2021

I spoke to our property management firm yesterday who seemed completely unphased by my concerns over poor electrical work and told me the electrician had already said he’d be returning to “finish the work” - news to us. Furthermore, I was told me the electrician had said it was fine as he’d “disconnected it at the plate”............ Even if the unearthed (mains) light and transformer for the other (non-functioning) light had been isolated in some way, the wiring to the working light’s transformer was left exposed.

Where I have used the word “electrician” perhaps I should have used “cowboy” - a dangerous one at that.

Bruce McGuinness · 11 Apr 2021

Well, the guy that came back looked the same but this time did a proper and safe looking job of replacing all the lights, and no exposed wiring...........

mattylad · 12 Apr 2021

Are they now earthed correctly?

securespark · 12 Apr 2021

Did you get a Minor Works Certificate?

Bruce McGuinness · 13 Apr 2021

mattylad said:
Are they now earthed correctly?

I only see a live and neutral wire coming from behind the plate where I assume the light is connected to the supply. Could that mean the fittings are double insulated?

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