Daunte Wright

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I was taught to shoot a pistol by the legend that advised the UK police on their proceedures followed by officers carrying firearms.

He just rolled over in his grave.

"As I watched the video & listened to the officers commands, it is my belief that the officer had the intention to deploy their tazer but instead shot Mr. Wright with a single bullet."

I understand what happened here & I have no doubt that it will be twisted & turned by those with certain agenda's. What happened here is so easily negated by most of the principles & rules I was taught.

There is something very wrong if it can all go very wrong this easily . . . .
 
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I was taught to shoot a pistol by the legend that advised the UK police on their proceedures followed by officers carrying firearms.

He just rolled over in his grave.

"As I watched the video & listened to the officers commands, it is my belief that the officer had the intention to deploy their tazer but instead shot Mr. Wright with a single bullet."

I understand what happened here & I have no doubt that it will be twisted & turned by those with certain agenda's. What happened here is so easily negated by most of the principles & rules I was taught.

There is something very wrong if it can all go very wrong this easily . . . .
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I often go to grab my brickies trowel only to to grab a screwdriver instead. Imagine my shock when all I get is a piddly bit of compo on the end of the driver.

There must be some way of enabling a police officer to determine the difference between their gun and ANYTHING else strapped to their hip, surely? Can't have them blowing the heads off all the speeding violators out there, when accidently reaching for their pen.

Why don't they introduce training or summat....:idea:
 
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She'll just file a report saying 'oops' and get a slap on the wrist...

No harm done, as he was probably only guilty of having a black skin and driving a reasonably nice car.

One of the saving graces in the UK is that plod is not routinely armed...

Although I do recall that when tasers were introduced it was specifically said that they would only be used in place of a firearm...

So that would have meant according to the last year's data available (2018/19) 2,500 police 'shootings'!
 
I elected to keep my pistols at the club, a voluntary decision that was left to the individual member before they had the knowledge that not doing so was the wrong answer. We had a 2x key system to the gun lockers, ensuring they couldn't be removed 'accidentally'.

We had some VERY strictly enforced rules to follow, as well as an unwritten etiquette, yet we still had the occasional negligent discharge. The investigations & subsequent reports into these were thorough, done with some urgency & involved every member. All shooting stopped while this happened. We learned from every mistake & resigned ourselves to the fact that we'd still be discovering new ones.

This was a very basic mistake that should have been ruled out a long time ago. It wasn't & it is indicative to me that there is something VERY wrong with their basic proceedures. A young man is dead & a long serving police officers life has just changed. I have little doubt that all focus will be placed on these 2 individuals, meanwhile their 'proceedures' book will continue to gather dust on its shelf.
 
She should still be dismissed and possibly face a charge of gross negligence manslaughter (or the equivalent). It’s incomprehensible that a taser can have the same feel as a pistol. However, the footage clearly shows this was gross negligence and not police brutality. I think it’s well known in the US that if you resist arrest you risk getting shot
 
She must be a top markswoman to kill the guy with one shot.
Most American shootouts end with around 200 bullets being fired and the dead person being 'riddled' with only 3 of them!
 
Shouldn’t taser in the chest
Shouldn’t holster taser for the dominant hand
Shouldn’t taser someone in a car due to risk of it driving off when the target is hit.

failure to follow these rules may have led to a breach of duty of care.
 
If you have a culture where guns are so embedded, coupled with ongoing racial tensions, what do people expect? I know guns are maybe getting easier for criminals to get their hands on here in the UK, however at least every other house doesn't have one nor every police officer. Can you imagine some of the stories you read here about road rage, neighbour disputes, police feeling threatened etc. We'd see a lot more deaths than we currently do if there were more guns in the mix. Drunk neighbour 'is that idiot on my lawn again, where's my gun!!!'

Much of America still doesn't want to admit it, they have a major issue with guns. And don't give me all this 'it's not the guns that kill people' guff, that's a convenient line to trot out in an attempt to shut anti-gun people up.
 
Imagine if a dr used a scalpel instead of a swab - or an electrician caused a fire due to faulty work or a plumber who didn't solder the gas pipes properly. They would all lead to likely losing their jobs and face mansalughter charges.

Yet in this situation which Police are trained for she was negligent, yet I wonder why the outpouring of support?

In America what needs to end is qualified immunity. This officer won't face much consequence of her actions - the bill will be paid by the tax payer and if she is dismissed she will just get another job in the next county.
 
When I heard this on the news I was dumbfounded, how stupid are they. Especially in a time where tensions are high already and race relations in the state are at their all time low.

There is no excuses for this, she should be held fully accountable, and get done for murder at the very least man slaughter, and serve a long prison service.

America - the thickest country on earth..
 
My experience of American police strongly suggests that officer training is poor. With towns and even villages having there own police forces there does not appear to be any central ( federal ) standard of training for police officers.

There are over 17,000 police forces in the USA with different standards of training. In some "cities" the public vote to select the people for the job of police officer. In others the Mayor or Council run the police service and put "suitable" people into the police force for the city.

There are City Police. ( A "city" can be as small as 300 houses, what we would call a village )
Above them there are County Sheriffs
Above them there are State Police.
Above them there are some Federal Agencies

And between them there exists rivalry which gets in the way of the task of policing.
 
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