Rendered block planter

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Been quoted rather more than I expected for a couple of rendered block planters to be built in our rear garden. I wonder what people would consider reasonable for a 5000x600x800 and 3000x600x800 (length, width, height) planter, with appropriate foundations and rendered white in K-Rend (or equivalent)?
 
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Somewhere north of 5k?
At least a grands worth of materials, skips/grabs for excavated soil (assuming it doesn’t all go in the planters) potentially readymix delivery, plus labour
 
>5k? :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
200 blocks ~ £400
1 tonne sand = £40
200kg cement = £30
20ish square metres coverage of k-rend = 10 bags ~ £120
2m3 for footings ~ £200
1 skip = £120
that's < £1000 and then £4000 labour?? That's like £20 a block! At £200 a day that's taking 20 days. Cmon, am i missing something?
 
Get other quotes then!
If you already have, and they are comparable then that is the market price.
 
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It's an add on to a bigger job. Just thought I might get a ball park figure on here. Can't see how you could possibly justify £5k, but i am very much not an expert hence why i am not just doing it myself.
 
4k and i thought that seemed a lot! Although i had underestimated the price of the materials.
 
The materials are whatever they cost, then its no more than a weeks work for two blokes.

If its a variation to an existing contract then the rates from that contract should apply, so whatever day rates have been agreed or paid for previously would cover it.
 
So at £200 a day each (which seems a lot for a brickie, this is the NW not London!) you're looking at more like £3k max in total.

I think the problem is I'm being quoted landscape gardener rates rather than brickie rates. That's what I'm trying to establish really.
 
So at £200 a day each (which seems a lot for a brickie, this is the NW not London!) you're looking at more like £3k max in total.

I think the problem is I'm being quoted landscape gardener rates rather than brickie rates. That's what I'm trying to establish really.
No, the problem is that you have not agreed any rates for variations within your existing contract.

You don't pay bricklayer rates unless you are directly employing a bricklayer. If you are employing a builder, or a gardener or whoever, who then instructs a bricklayer, then you pay an uplift plus overheads.

Its a free market, if you don't like the quote then go elsewhere. Likewise, if the builder don't want to do the work for you he can decline or just quote high to put you off, or make it worth his while if it drags the job out.
 
Fair enough. The work hasn't started yet tbh I'm just trying to work out typical pricing for negotiation and whether I'd be as well taking on responsibility for some elements of the build myself. But i think we agree that £4k is too much to buy the materials and pay for the labour of an appropriate tradesperson and £5k is pie in the sky.
 
>5k? :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
200 blocks ~ £400
1 tonne sand = £40
200kg cement = £30
20ish square metres coverage of k-rend = 10 bags ~ £120
2m3 for footings ~ £200
1 skip = £120
that's < £1000 and then £4000 labour?? That's like £20 a block! At £200 a day that's taking 20 days. Cmon, am i missing something?

Where are you buying all your materials from, the year 2008?

Can't get a skip round here for less than £200 plus vat nowadays for example.
 
Fair enough. The work hasn't started yet tbh I'm just trying to work out typical pricing for negotiation and whether I'd be as well taking on responsibility for some elements of the build myself. But i think we agree that £4k is too much to buy the materials and pay for the labour of an appropriate tradesperson and £5k is pie in the sky.
This one cost about £4k and its a 2000 brick planter. Most of the facing brickwork is shaped and was built entirely with a level. I managed 400 in one day - level the brick one way - level the brick the other way - plum the brick.
 

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