Covid Death Stats: Looking Like Us Doubters May Be Right

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Why then did they not work as well against covid?
they have worked well against covid, and the elderly who are vulnerable to flu were keeping themselves far safer during the second wave. What woulld your explanation be to very low numbers of people suffering from flu this past season ? the flu virus caught covid or decided it was out matched and didn't want to compete in 21.
 
We've been on multiple lockdowns with mask wearing, social distancing and increased hygiene?
So do you also advocate this approach every year in order to avoid the tens of thousands of flu deaths in a 'normal' year?

Or indeed have you questioned the lack of 'lockdowns' at all in the past?

What is your limit/milestone as regards to the numbers of deaths from any communicable disease before a 'lockdown' should be implemented?
 
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It was a question, denoted by starting with the words "Why then did.." which you have deleted, although you forgot about the question mark.

So, you don't know.
 
they have worked well against covid,
Have they?

and the elderly who are vulnerable to flu were keeping themselves far safer during the second wave.
Yet they are the vast majority who died.

What would your explanation be to very low numbers of people suffering from flu this past season ? the flu virus caught covid or decided it was out matched and didn't want to compete in 21.
I don't know. That's why I asked.

Why do people who don't know the answers to questions reply?
 
So do you also advocate this approach every year in order to avoid the tens of thousands of flu deaths in a 'normal' year?

Or indeed have you questioned the lack of 'lockdowns' at all in the past?

What is your limit/milestone as regards to the numbers of deaths from any communicable disease before a 'lockdown' should be implemented?
You could draw that line in a number of places, but stopping one's health care system going into meltdown would be one good place. See India for details for why this would be a good idea. There other criteria you could use of course.
 
You could draw that line in a number of places, but stopping one's health care system going into meltdown would be one good place.
So what are you going to say to the families of thousands of people who have or are going to die of treatable diseases because the NHS has drastically cut back on diagnosis/treatment?

That they died for the 'greater good'?
 
So what are you going to say to the families of thousands of people who have or are going to die of treatable diseases because the NHS has drastically cut back on diagnosis/treatment?

That they died for the 'greater good'?

What would you have done?
 
As usual deflecting from the original question...

You answer mine and I'll answer yours :)

I'd have done similar to what has been done but with earlier and tighter lockdowns (bit of hindsight in there, granted)
 
what would the infection rate have been without them?

That's easy, like India at the moment - many dying, unable to get help in from hospitals because are full, many having been lucky enough to recover, yet due to long covid living a miserable existence.
 
So what are you going to say to the families of thousands of people who have or are going to die of treatable diseases because the NHS has drastically cut back on diagnosis/treatment?

That they died for the 'greater good'?
Lockdown far sooner, test & trace locally run when numbers are low enough, not underfunded NHS, support for those isolating, and when it gets low, aim for eradication.... I could go on, but the Tories have blood on their hands.

How would you have done it?
 
I'd have done similar to what has been done but with earlier and tighter lockdowns (bit of hindsight in there, granted)

Yep, hindsight is an absolutely wonderful thing - we can all make brilliant use of it to be critical, after the event. Personally - I think not gifted with hindsight, the government and health service did a wonderful job of controlling it between them. Yes, money has been wasted and things could have been done better looking back, but what else can you do but chuck large amounts of money at it, when faced with something as new as this was?

The government and health service made very good use of the experience it gained, as the virus progressed - what more could they do, than what they did? It was very much 'learning on the job' for everyone involved from the very start.
 
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