EICR Report Query adding sockets

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We just had a recent EICR report in which the electrician wants to charge us £900 to fix it to get a satisfactory. A majority of the cost is to install 5 new sockets (number 5). Is this something that is part of an EICR or are we just getting fleeced.

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purchae said:
We just had a recent EICR report in which the electrician wants to charge us £900 to fix it to get a satisfactory. A majority of the cost is to install 5 new sockets (number 5). Is this something that is part of an EICR or are we just getting fleeced.
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Fleeced, I would say.

As for item (5), it's fair enough to require that any thermally-damaged sockets be replaced [and the same for item (6) ], but the 'excessive use of extension sockets' (with, I suppose, the implication that there are not enough sockets) has nothing to do with an EICR and, indeed, extension leads per se (even extension leads plugged into extension leads') should not overload anything.

Item (4) is questionable - depending on the extent to which the cable is exposed to possible mechanical damage to the cable.

As for the remainder of the C2s (1, 2, 3 & 7), they are all fairly trivial and should not cost much to have remedied.

.... and, in any event, £900 sounds pretty OTT for (mainly) installing 5 new sockets.

Is this a rental property?

Kind Regards, John
 
purchae said:
Yes it is
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OK, so that means that you are essentially obliged to have any C2s 'remedied'.

However, as I implied, in relation to item (5) (which is resulting in most of the quoted cost), all that has to be done to 'remedy' it is to have any thermally damaged sockets replaced (which is a trivial, hopefully cheap, job). As I see it, nothing in that C2 requires you to have any additional sockets fitted.

Kind Regards, John
 
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Don't they have to state the regulation number that has been contravened?
 
How refreshing that plastic CU is not coded C1?
 
Yes I agree! I also agree with John as the Extension leads are not part of the actual fixed wire installation. Where are the Test results?
 
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Don't they have to state the regulation number that has been contravened?
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Well, they really have to at least be able to indicate the relevant reg number - and, unless they tried to rely on some incredibly vague 'catch all' one, I think they would seriously struggle to find a regulation relating to 'not enough sockets'.

Whoever did that EICR also seems to have a lack of basic understanding - since, as I said, the use of extension leads (even 'extension leads plugged into extension leads') should NOT, per se, result in thermal damage to sockets or anything else.

Kind Regards, John
 
chivers67 said:
Yes I agree! I also agree with John as the Extension leads are not part of the actual fixed wire installation. Where are the Test results?
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Good question. Upon looking at the document I received it seems to mentioned them being attached under section H (copied below) but there is nothing else except for other sections and a few photos accompanying the observations list above and its only pictures of 1,2,3 & 6


Section H. Schedule(s)
1 schedule(s) of inspection and 1 schedule(s) of test results are attached.
The attached schedule(s) are part of this document and this report is valid only when they are attached to it.



I might just have to follow this up with them because as it stands according to the document it is invalid without them
 
purchae said:
I might just have to follow this up with them because as it stands according to the document it is invalid without them
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Yes, you certainly need to make sure that you have a 'valid document'.

However, in relation to the issues we are discussing, the Schedule of Test Results will not be of any great importance, since none of the 9 'coded' issues they mention has got anything to do with the results of any tests.

Kind Regards, John
 
Well trying to get more quotes at the moment so hopefully something comes back more reasonable.
 
purchae said:
Well trying to get more quotes at the moment so hopefully something comes back more reasonable.
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You're lucky, since there is nothing in that list of faults that requires the fitting of any additional sockets (which was apparently the main element of the £900 quote). To merely 'remedy' the seven C2 items in that list (incuding replacement of any sockets which really are thermally damaged) did not ought to cost all that much.

The real problem with the PRS legislation arises if some C2s are reported that one does not agree with - since it's far from clear how one can then get out of being legally obliged to 'remedy' them, even if one doesn't believe that there is anything that needs remedying!

Kind Regards, John
 
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