Plug confussion again

I've just taken a phonecall for cables hire, my details given by a regular customer.

Ingoring lengths etc the potential customer is asking for:

Plugtop to 16A plug,
32A plug for 4 plugs,
32A plug to16A plug,
32A plug to 63A inlet,
Yellow transformer with 2 plugs.

Clues anyone???


EDIT: Reminds me of a thread a few months back

I imagine you discussed with them what they really wanted.

BS3036 said:

I imagine you discussed with them what they really wanted.

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Err yes... and the person who tasked him to phone will call me...

SUNRAY said:

Yellow transformer with 2 plugs.

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Yes, I am bored!!

rsgaz said:

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Yes, I am bored!!

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Ah but are they plugs or plug tops

Ah yes but then what comes out of the bottom of a plug ? Is it the cable or the pins, or maybe nothing comes from the bottom if the socket has been fitted upside down

I think I understand them except the 63a inlet

SUNRAY said:

I've just taken a phonecall for cables hire, my details given by a regular customer.

Ingoring lengths etc the potential customer is asking for:

Plugtop to 16A plug,
32A plug for 4 plugs,
32A plug to16A plug,
32A plug to 63A inlet,
Yellow transformer with 2 plugs.

Clues anyone???


EDIT: Reminds me of a thread a few months back

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Thank the lord for Zoom meetings:
Plugtop to 16A plug, My prediction (MP)- 13A plug to 16A 4343 socket (coupler), Correct.
32A plug for 4 plugs, MP - 32A 4343 plug to 4x 13A socket, 4x Shuko socket.
32A plug to16A plug, MP - 32A 4343 plug to16A 4343 socket (coupler), 16A 4343 plug to 32A 4343 socket (coupler) Yellow.
32A plug to 63A inlet, MP - 32A 4343 plug to63A 4343 socket (coupler), 32A 4343 plug to 60A Reyrolle socket 3 phase to go between Genset and Reyrolle inlet to building,
Yellow transformer with 2 plugs. MP - , close but 10KVA 3ph.

If I'd made the 'obvious assumptions' and loaded the car with the mile of cable being asked for and delivered as asked for I'd have been well pee'd off.

The ingorance was far too much for me to get involved with. Especially when I saw the state of some of their kit.

As the dragons say... I'm out.

Never underestimate the lack of knowledge that a Customer has....

I remember, sometime ago, being asked about the hire of a microphone.....

A few minutes into the conversation it dawned on me that he had very little knowledge of what he actually needed to accomplish what he wanted. He'd seen a handheld radio mic in use & just assumed that this device, on its own, would make his voice heard by all! He had no knowledge of the requirement for mixing desks, amplification equipment, speakers or anything else that lives in the chain between microphone & speaker diaphragm.

He was rather taken aback when the quote for what he needed came to a couple hundred pounds for a day for setup, tech-op & derig.... he thought it was just gonna be £5 a pay for a microphone.

AdrianUK said:

Never underestimate the lack of knowledge that a Customer has....

I remember, sometime ago, being asked about the hire of a microphone.....

A few minutes into the conversation it dawned on me that he had very little knowledge of what he actually needed to accomplish what he wanted. He'd seen a handheld radio mic in use & just assumed that this device, on its own, would make his voice heard by all! He had no knowledge of the requirement for mixing desks, amplification equipment, speakers or anything else that lives in the chain between microphone & speaker diaphragm.

He was rather taken aback when the quote for what he needed came to a couple hundred pounds for a day for setup, tech-op & derig.... he thought it was just gonna be £5 a pay for a microphone.

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I've got a few of those t-shirts...

A few years back, maybe 10, I got a phone call asking to hire microphone cables and quite frankly he had no clue what he wanted. He was talking about up to 50m and lots of them. He sounded like a total muppet and I nearly put him down (told him I couldn't help).

As the conversation progressed I realised he did know what he was talking about and the actual problem wasn't cables, it was not enough kit for a 10 day changing selection of events in a hotel complex for an international company, he was planning to continually rig/derig kit but leave cables taped in place. He kept phoning back asking about other bits. Final count was effectively 3 complete, but fairly basic, systems - pair of speakers, tripods, mixer/amp, radiomics, sm58's, cd player and cables, cables, cables. One of the things he needed to do was link systems together and I made up a 50m 6 way stage box but just twisted pairs without individual screens similar to 9506 so it was thin enough to go under the partition screens oh and mains multiways - loads of them. His big Volvo estate was chocka bloc. Last thing he spoke about after the car was loaded was long VGA cables and to go with those I offered a 8x8 VGA matrix.

When it came back right on top of a box of cables was a 20m mic cable which had got chewed and he'd very carefully taped, he showed it straight away also reporting the loss of a short jack to jack lead. His face dropped as I cut the repair out. Otherwise the rest was as supplied, possibly even cleaner and he included the rest of the box of 9V Duracells. I checked it in and returned the big cash deposit without question. Then he asked about the stage box (which was nicely wound fig of 8 in a cardboard lettuce tray), bearing in mind he'd already paid a hire fee for something I'd made from stock parts I sold it for the cost of materials, the cable and for that matter the 16w stage box (6 male, 6 female and 4 jack) would have probably not been used otherwise.

Turned out to be two very happy bunnies from a starting point which felt so different.

Anyone see the news about an illegal rave in Sussex?

SUNRAY said:

I've just taken a phonecall for cables hire, my details given by a regular customer.

Ingoring lengths etc the potential customer is asking for:

Plugtop to 16A plug,
32A plug for 4 plugs,
32A plug to16A plug,
32A plug to 63A inlet,
Yellow transformer with 2 plugs.

Clues anyone???


EDIT: Reminds me of a thread a few months back

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4 plugs (suggest he means 4 pin or for sockets)
32amp to 16amp sounds like he wants an inline adaptor but needs to ensure the draw is the lower amp
same as the 32 to 63
transformer is just a site transformer 110v 2 outlet

question need asking for clarification

delmel said:

4 plugs (suggest he means 4 pin or for sockets)
32amp to 16amp sounds like he wants an inline adaptor but needs to ensure the draw is the lower amp
same as the 32 to 63
transformer is just a site transformer 110v 2 outlet

question need asking for clarification

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I found out in #8

As I understand it the cables may have been required for the rave in Sussex.

SUNRAY said:

As I understand it the cables may have been required for the rave in Sussex.

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Hope the new "owners" of the cables ( the police ) cannot trace them back to the supplier.

AdrianUK said:

Never underestimate the lack of knowledge that a Customer has....

I remember, sometime ago, being asked about the hire of a microphone.....

A few minutes into the conversation it dawned on me that he had very little knowledge of what he actually needed to accomplish what he wanted. He'd seen a handheld radio mic in use & just assumed that this device, on its own, would make his voice heard by all! He had no knowledge of the requirement for mixing desks, amplification equipment, speakers or anything else that lives in the chain between microphone & speaker diaphragm.

He was rather taken aback when the quote for what he needed came to a couple hundred pounds for a day for setup, tech-op & derig.... he thought it was just gonna be £5 a pay for a microphone.

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I look after the halls in a church. One user asked if I'd switch on the induction loop as someone had a hearing aid. She simply could not understand that the induction loop required her to use a microphone for it to be of any use. She thought it made everything perfect without a microphone etc. I despair at the ignorance of some people