Gap houses

motorbiking · 17 Jun 2021

jacko555 said:
% of owner occupied

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_home_ownership_rate

France/ Germany may have higher and lower home ownership respectively, compared to the UK.

However, renters have rights there not present in the UK . They include the right not to be kicked out with only four week notice, the right to decorate their home as they wish, and the right to contest and reject abusive rent increases while still get to keep their homes.

renters in the U.K. have excellent rights

- minimum 2 months notice for rolling tenancy termination.

- rent increases can be appealed via a tribunal

- then you have all the tricks that can be played. To avoid paying all the rent anyway. Not to mention deposit protection and mandatory electric and gas safety.

In france, it’s not a right to decorate, it’s a requirement to maintain. As is buying building insurance and being stuck for 1-3 years.

jacko555 · 17 Jun 2021

motorbiking said:
renters in the U.K. have excellent rights

Tell that to the tenants of the slum landlords pervasive across the UK

https://www.theguardian.com/housing...xample-of-just-how-bad-it-can-get-for-renters

Diver Fred · 17 Jun 2021

andy11 said:
The problem is that there are too many people and not that there are too few houses.

Mass immigration = housing shortage.

and this country must stop paying people to breed. also large families (+2 births) should be taxed.
less people = less demand on the natural world, less polution, less demand for intensively grown food, less impact on the seas!

SirGalahad · 17 Jun 2021

wgt52 said:
and this country must stop paying people to breed. also large families (+2 births) should be taxed.
less people = less demand on the natural world, less polution, less demand for intensively grown food, less impact on the seas!

You vote for Brexit? As we now want to import/export more from further away and all the added impact on the Environment.

Vinty · 17 Jun 2021

wgt52 said:
and this country must stop paying people to breed. also large families (+2 births) should be taxed.
less people = less demand on the natural world, less polution, less demand for intensively grown food, less impact on the seas!

Low birth rates are part of the problem.
Too few young people paying taxes to support the old folk.
The policy of importing young workers rather than growing your own, is only a short term solution.

Vinty · 17 Jun 2021

wgt52 said:
and this country must stop paying people to breed. also large families (+2 births) should be taxed.
less people = less demand on the natural world, less polution, less demand for intensively grown food, less impact on the seas!

Thomas Malthus had the same ideas.
He believed feeding the poor only made them breed faster and put a strain on resources.
His ideas are now considered bunkum.

motorbiking · 17 Jun 2021

jacko555 said:
Tell that to the tenants of the slum landlords pervasive across the UK

https://www.theguardian.com/housing...xample-of-just-how-bad-it-can-get-for-renters

Courts are full of LL who can’t get bad tenants out. The above article seemed to quote hearsay and focus on rent control. Why can’t a LL choose the price he sells his product for? Every other business can set prices and market forces, dictate if it sells.

There are substantial requirements for U.K. landlords.

Scarlet Pimpernel · 17 Jun 2021

fillyboy said:
I think we've all got to accept that we're never going to see the social building programmes that we saw in the 50's and 60's, it's not going to happen, it's unaffordable. What's wrong with cheaper alternatives if it goes some way to helping with the problem?

Building land was in abundance, certainly in the 50's. There were still many 'bombed sites' in inner cities available.
Now the supply of building land is vastly reduced.

Scarlet Pimpernel · 17 Jun 2021

Ihavenojob said:
Knock a few of these up, it will probably end up like this anyway

Which also looks like this

Diver Fred · 17 Jun 2021

SirGalahad said:
You vote for Brexit? As we now want to import/export more from further away and all the added impact on the Environment.

in the final 14 years of paid employment I worked in 8 different EU countries for varying amounts of time including 6 half years for a France based organisation. I've seen the best and the worst of the EU from British and nationals of those countries. Not one country is completely happy with the EU - all want changes to a greater or lesser extent but only the UK 's perception was it was terrible (for which I blame the wannabe president of Europe - Tory Blair).

I'm happy to say I voted to remain.

Ihavenojob · 17 Jun 2021

Vinty said:
Too few young people paying taxes to support the old folk.

Because they don't earn enough, and NI is not paid by an employer if the employee earns too little, and someone doing 2 or 3 jobs to earn more money will still pay hardly any NI , as it is charged through each job, not total earnings. Start getting people to pay NI on all earnings, pensions as well, and make employers pay NI on ANY of an employees earnings.

SirGalahad · 17 Jun 2021

Take care of our own. Take care of our own - as long as its not nurses.

https://www.morningstaronline.co.uk/article/b/low-wages-causing-nurses-to-leave-the-profession

Captain Nemesis · 17 Jun 2021

Ihavenojob said:
Start getting people to pay NI on all earnings, pensions as well, and make employers pay NI on ANY of an employees earnings.

And start forcing employers to pay enough.

JP_ · 17 Jun 2021

There's some prefab houses (bungalows) not far from me, built post war. I think there were plans to rebuild them more than once into larger "proper" homes but residents really like them so objected to the plans - and probably enjoy the larger gardens they get than with newbuilds.

Ihavenojob · 17 Jun 2021

Captain Nemesis said:
And start forcing employers to pay enough.

So what is enough, £25k a year, £40k a year ? Do you pay a kitchen porter the same as a A&E nurse, or a Fireman the same as a person pulling pints in a pub ? Why do people go for low paid jobs and not high paid jobs ?, there are plenty about apparently due to Brexit. For some reason, people want to live in and around London, where house prices are stupid, and it is not just local people who want to live there, people come from all over for many reasons, and a lot want to live in one of the most expensive cities in the world, then complain they can't afford a house.

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