Please recommend a non-contact voltage detector pen

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Please recommend a non-contact voltage detector pen that I can use to check for live cables in UK domestic situation, ie 240 volts AC, AND possibly low voltage DC, eg 12 volt car or lower voltage battery operated items? Am I expecting too much to detect 240 V AC and 12 V DC?

Will they detect a cable in a wall?

What should I look out for in the specs?
 
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I use a Fluke and it does work for live cables in a wall, but only for general not precise location. Also it beeps for non live metal in the vicinity. More useful on switched circuits to tests what's on or off. Not a stand alone device IMO.

Blup
 
No, generally I would not recommend a non contact voltage detector pen at all.
Although they do have some uses in tracing circuits THEY ARE ABSOLUTELY NOT TO BE RELIED UPON for testing that a circuit is dead or for any other safety critical testing.
It's also quite unlikely that you'll find any non contact device to detect 12V DC
 
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Thanks guys, for your replies.

I have lost the supply to my night storage radiators, although the general supply to the property is fine, and I was anticipating a problem getting the supplier to come out as they had recently fitted a new meter. Consequently, I was looking for a device to confirm that there was no supply to the radiator consumer unit, that was also a catch all device.

No, generally I would not recommend a non contact voltage detector pen at all.
Although they do have some uses in tracing circuits THEY ARE ABSOLUTELY NOT TO BE RELIED UPON for testing that a circuit is dead or for any other safety critical testing.
It's also quite unlikely that you'll find any non contact device to detect 12V DC

Thanks, yes, since posting I have spent a lot of time looking at the reviews for the pens on that well known river in South America :) and many posters say not to rely on the pens in a life and death situation. Consequently, because I was waiting for my supplier to phone me back, and not really expecting them to, I ordered a Digital Clamp Meter. However, they did phone me back and will hopefully fix the problem, but if the Clamp Meter works properly, then it will be useful for identifying any future supply problems.
 
They are ok for certain things, eg in my job checking if a boiler case is live or a gas pipe before cutting into it. If you’re checking for voltage presence, then a two pole voltage indicator is recommended. Otherwise a multimeter may suit you better.
 
.... I ordered a Digital Clamp Meter. However, they did phone me back and will hopefully fix the problem, but if the Clamp Meter works properly, then it will be useful for identifying any future supply problems.
A clamp meter has to be 'clamped' about just one of the conductors/'wires' (Neutral or Live/Line). If you clamp it around a whole cable (containing both the L and N conductors/wires), even if high current is flowing, that in one conductor should 'cancel' that in the other, resulting in a 'zero', or nearly zero, reading.

Kind Regards, John
 
I had the predecessor to this upload_2021-7-24_7-32-38.png the Martindale NC1 which did both solenoid and voltage and found it very good, hope the new owner does, who ever it was.

But they are easy damaged, only need a small knock, I bought it to test solenoids the voltage bit was an extra, it does depend how close you are to the live wire, upload_2021-7-24_7-39-44.png these will detect cables buried under the ground to quite a depth, often called cable avoidance tools, and cable trackers upload_2021-7-24_7-44-31.png normally come in two parts sender and receiver, it all depends on what you want it for? I have tried this type upload_2021-7-24_7-47-33.png to be frank not that good, but better than a pen type. I would say likely the two section type upload_2021-7-24_7-44-31.png do work best for finding cable break, but each has its place.
 
They are ok for certain things, eg in my job checking if a boiler case is live or a gas pipe before cutting into it. If you’re checking for voltage presence, then a two pole voltage indicator is recommended. Otherwise a multimeter may suit you better.
They are not Ok for that use either in that they can show that the pipe is live even when it's visibly connected directly to the nearby main earthing terminal, due to coupling between nearby wiring and the user's body.

I had to get the DNO out once as the gas man wanted to change my meter, and their stupid, cheap non-contact tester said the piping was live even though the bond to the main earthing terminal was clearly visible. I explained the situation to them but they would not accept it from me. I had to get the DNO out to check it which they did and of course they said it was all fine. They told me that they get this all the time, it wastes their time and money and those devices not fit for that purpose.
 
due to coupling between nearby wiring and the user's body.

Just to expand that to convince the OP

A voltage detector pen indicates when the potential difference between the metal being tested and the body of the person using ( holding ) the pen is greater than a few tens of volts ( older pens lit when the difference was about 100 volts ).

As davelx has said capacity coupling from Live wiring and the user's body can bring the person's potential high enough that the pen indicates when it touches a grounded item. Most common source of potential to the user is the wires to a light switch when the switch is ON
 

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