RNLI

Captain Nemesis · 30 Jul 2021

If anybody is ever looking for somewhere to stay in/near Poole, I can strongly recommend the RNLI college.

The rooms are just as good as any Travelodge/Premier Inn, the restaurant isnt bad, its good VFM and, of course, it helps the RNLI.

Captain Nemesis · 30 Jul 2021

Dork Lard said:
"You have to go out, you don't have to come back".

When everbody else is running for shore, they are heading out.

Although interestingly their busiest station is not on the coast, and is permanently manned, 365x24.

Notch7 · 30 Jul 2021

motorbiking said:
It would depend on the forecast. I use Windfinder and navionics, both work on a mobile phone fine. And navionics would easily get them across the channel accurately.

the boats they use while overloaded and small tend to come with 15-25hp outboards. So the crossing will be under 4 hours on a calm day. They could do it on 25-40l of fuel depending on the wave height. If they crossed today it would be pretty horrible. 2-3m waves and f6+ winds.

if you mean a sailing dingy, with a decent crew and race spec - it would be awesome - around 6-8 hours of fun

thanks for that, really interesting insight.

2-3 m waves

I don’t fancy that!

mattylad · 30 Jul 2021

ISTR that the crews are volunteers and that they rush out of their jobs when called.
I bet their bosses are getting fed up of the constant loss of their employees for calls that should have been handled before they were needed.

This whole situation should have been dealt with without the need for them to try and sneak in on overcrowded boats.

wobs · 30 Jul 2021

Captain Nemesis said:
When everbody else is running for shore, they are heading out.

Although interestingly their busiest station is not on the coast, and is permanently manned, 365x24.

Although its practically on the coast, as its on Spurn Head.

Captain Nemesis · 30 Jul 2021

No, its at Waterloo Bridge on the Thames.

Captain Nemesis · 30 Jul 2021

mattylad said:
I bet their bosses are getting fed up of the constant loss of their employees for calls that should have been handled before they were needed.[/quote
Handled by whom?

Captain Nemesis · 30 Jul 2021

Dork Lard said:
What's happening in the channel isn't caused by the RNLI & I think any criticism of their involvement comes from mouth breathing, amoeba brained thundertwats who should be made to carry the bodies off the beaches.

“When it comes to rescuing those people attempting to cross the Channel, we do not question why they got into trouble, who they are or where they come from. All we need to know is that they need our help.”

Mark Dowie, chief executive of the RNLI.

[The RNLI is] becoming “a taxi service for illegal immigration”.

Nigel Farage.

fillyboy · 30 Jul 2021

Captain Nemesis said:
No, its at Waterloo Bridge on the Thames.

I can remember the fanfare surrounding the RNLI starting ops on the Thames so it's relatively recent , 20 years?. From talking to police I know that Heathrow had a waiting list for their force, but the river police had a huge waiting list, it was like retirement but still getting paid, cruising up and down the river and once a month fishing out a corpse. That was 30 or more years ago I heard that, I guess things have livened up a lot since then, still surprising it's the busiest station though, I'd have put my money on Poole.

Bodd · 31 Jul 2021

Notch7 said:
As you a sailor, I’d guess you know.

What would it be like to sail across the channel in a dingy -scary I imagine.

It takes stupidness and guts.... this is why they should be denied asylum and encouraged to apply in a third country like we do with Visas. How many deaths do we not know about.

And the murders that happen on board

Lower · 31 Jul 2021

Captain Nemesis said:
[The RNLI is] becoming “a taxi service for illegal immigration”.

Nigel Farage.

Farage’s point is not criticism of the RNLI, it’s criticism of government policy that means the RNLI is routinely being used to pick up immigrants in the channel. He thinks the government should be doing it, and it’s not fair that a volunteer rescue service is routinely having to do it.

Deleted member 18243 · 31 Jul 2021

Lower said:
... government policy that means the RNLI is routinely being used to pick up immigrants in the channel...

I've always been impressed by the Lifeboat service. I recently watched, at Morecambe Bay, them putting out some sort of hovercraft onto the sand to rescue some silly people who had become stranded. I followed them there and back through the pier telescope - superb, and they got a great load of cheering and applause when they got back to the station!

I don't criticise them for rescuing the invaders, oops sorry! I meant poor downtrodden immigrants. The RNLI, like the rest of us, is just another innocent victim of our successive stupid governments' failure to enforce laws.

Douglas Murray on how to deal with the problem:

Turning the tide: how to deal with Britain’s new migrant crisis | The Spectator

Diver Fred · 31 Jul 2021

I wonder who will get the blame if someone (professional sailor, weekend yatchie, or other water user) dies because of a Marine Emergency and the RNLI is tied up with rescuing illegal immigrants?
should I stop going offshore at weekends, thereby reducing the risk to myself and mates, so that RNLI crews can give their time to saving illegals?

Captain Nemesis · 31 Jul 2021

Youre asking "I wonder who will get the blame if someone dies because of a Marine Emergency and the RNLI is enganged with dealing with a Marine Emergency?"

fillyboy · 31 Jul 2021

andy11 said:
I recently watched, at Morecambe Bay, them putting out some sort of hovercraft onto the sand to rescue some silly people who had become stranded.

They were lucky. That's an area where the seabed is so flat that when the tide goes out it goes out for miles, but when it comes back, it does so very quickly. That's the place where 20 Chinese cockle pickers were killed some years back.
Saddest case I heard about was a father and son who perished while waiting to be rescued. Emergency services were on the way but struggling to find them because of fog. The father sat his son on his shoulders to try and save him.

Father and son perish on sandbank | Daily Mail Online

A terrified father neck-deep in seawater hoisted his son on to his shoulders in a desperate attempt to save him from the rising tide.
Stranded in dense fog, Stewart Rushton had no idea which direction led to the safety of the shore. All he could do was stand on a sandbank hoping that the rescue teams he could hear a few hundred yards away would find them in time.
At one point his nine-year-old son Adam answered their mobile phone and said bravely that he was 'all right' before handing it to his father.
Mr Rushton, 51, told coastguards that the water was up to his neck but he could hear their sirens in the fog.

Minutes later, when the phone was answered again, only the sound of the sea could be heard and then the line went dead.
The bodies of father and son were discovered yesterday at Ulverston Sands, Cumbria, after their family had joined an anguished search operation.

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