Vaillant 424 open vent ,pump over run.

No the pump is fine where it is, the swiched live from the zone valve/s is connected to the RT , what type of zone valves do you have ?
 
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Where have you fitted the Nest, and have you wired it correctly?
 
The nest has been wirered as per MI
LN, link from L to 2 & 5 on heat link
3 to heating on
4 to HW on
6 to HW off
Heat Link fitted 1 mtr from Stat.
 
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4 is HW OFF
6 is HW ON
So if you have done it like you say they are the wrong way round.
 
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So 3 on the nest should go to the white on the 3 port valve.
4 on the nest to the grey on the valve and satisfied on the cylinder stat.
6 on the nest to common on the cylinder stat.
That just leaves the orange on the valve and call on the cylinder stat, which should both be connected to the 240 volt RT terminal on the boiler.
 
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So 3 on the nest should go to the white on the 3 port valve.
4 on the nest to the grey on the valve and satisfied on the cylinder stat.
6 on the nest to common on the cylinder stat.
That just leaves the orange on the valve and call on the cylinder stat, which should both be connected to the 240 volt RT terminal on the boiler.
Ok Iv run the cable in as you pointed out ,my head is fried now just to clarify the orange wire connects to 240v or the RT, on the boiler
And thanks for your help
 
The orange wires from motor valves apply 240v to the orange wire when the valve is open which creates a "call for heat" which is then connected to the appropriate 240v call for heat terminal on the boiler.

Apparently the RT in this case.

One has to be very careful because modern boilers can either accept ( old fashioned ) 240v signals or low voltage 24v inputs. And they must be connected correctly or you risk damaging the ( expensive ) boiler PCBs.
 
The orange wires from motor valves apply 240v to the orange wire when the valve is open which creates a "call for heat" which is then connected to the appropriate 240v call for heat terminal on the boiler.

Apparently the RT in this case.

One has to be very careful because modern boilers can either accept ( old fashioned ) 240v signals or low voltage 24v inputs. And they must be connected correctly or you risk damaging the ( expensive ) boiler PCBs.
Thanks Agile can you clarify which wire goes where(see attachment) as I dont want to damage the board
 

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Thanks Agile can you clarify which wire goes where(see attachment) as I dont want to damage the board
As long as you use the 230V RT side you’ll be fine. The link on the left hand side (24V) that you removed - don’t connect 230VAC to this. I think Agile muddied the water a little.
 
So many professionals make mistakes and wrongly apply 240v to low voltage inputs that I do not advise DIYers do get involved in making these connections as the consequences can be so expensive.

To me it is pretty simple as I have a background in electronics. But I have to have a clear head when I do it myself.

I do not think that many manufacturers explain these connections very well. Nor is it terribly difficult to design a circuit to accept 24v that would not be damaged by accidental connection to 240v.

Sometimes I wonder if some manufacturers intentionally make them easily damaged so they can profit from replacement PCBs.

I once went to an interesting talk from a manufacturer on how they try to make their programmers fit other backplates but not allow other programmers to fit their own backplates!
 

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