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JohnD · 19 Sep 2021

let filly answer for himself.

noseall · 19 Sep 2021

transam said:
blimey Biden has the nuclear launch codes

Thankfully they kept decision making and stuff like that, away from Trump. PHEW!

Brigade77 · 19 Sep 2021

Hands up anyone who thinks the western coalition will have the balls to put their armys where their mouths are, & stand up to actually defend Taiwan when it all kicks off.

Do any of you have the slightest clue that we may be the bad guys???

Notch7 · 19 Sep 2021

fillyboy said:
Oh dear, Brussels! UK's new deal with US and Australia is 'disaster' for EU - expert (msn.com)

Oh dear, Brussels! UK's new deal with US and Australia is 'disaster' for EU - expert
Chloe Davies 2 hrs ago
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The commentary refers to the Aukus alliance between the US, the UK and Australia, under which the US and UK will share sensitive technology with Australia to let it develop its first nuclear-powered submarines. Wolfgang Münchau branded the pact as an "implicit geopolitical disaster for the EU" in an op-ed for The Spectator, after France was snubbed from the trilateral pact in its contract stages.

The expert claims that "the alliance is the culmination of multiple European failures", and notes the EU's political misjudgements of US president Joe Biden's China strategy among them.

He implies that the pact is a retaliation from the UK after being treated as a "strategic adversary", saying that following the treatment "don't be surprised when the UK exploits the areas where it enjoys a competitive advantage."

Within the piece Wolfgang claims that the EU "has outmanoeuvred itself through lazy group-think" and also brands the union as "monolithic" for it's slow-changing progress.

One example he provides is that while developments are made by the Biden administration to move beyond Nato towards a multipolar defence strategy, Mr Münchau claims the EU falls behind as German political parties still remain discussing the pros and cons of Nato.

He claims that while "Nato remains a pillar" for defence strategies, "it is now supplemented by informal Indo-Pacific alliances", including the US, Japan, India and Australia.

Further domain is acquired due to an informal intelligence pact compromising the US, Canada, UK, Australia and New Zealand dubbed 'Five Eyes', which forms part of the "variable geometry of the new international order" according to the expert, whereas the EU is on the outskirts of the scheme.

After branding the EU as "monolithic", Mr Münchau states that the EU is more limited in its progress as it is "stuck with its 27 veto-wielding members in the foreign affairs council".

Other European states can't compete with the "different order" of the UK's investment in modern defence technologies, which make them a natural alliance for the US for this specific scheme aimed at containing the influence of China.

Daily Express again

Fillyboy, will you never learn

The Daily Express is the political version of the Daily Sport…….it’s pure made up garbage, it has zero legitimacy.

Vinty · 19 Sep 2021

transam said:
blimey Biden has the nuclear launch codes a lunatic in the White House

He would probably forget them.

transam · 19 Sep 2021

Yep Biden the diplomat

called putin a killer

This Ahfghan caper

and now he has upset the French big time

blimey he has only been president for what 3 months

jeez us what over calamity is he going to cause

transam · 19 Sep 2021

Oh yeah the North Koreans have tested a cruise missile and a ballistic missile since Biden took office

transam · 19 Sep 2021

And it looks like the Chinese will not be attending this climate change caper in Glasgow

????

probably due to this submarine caper ??

and the french have cancelled a meeting with the UK on defence / military issues

motorbiking · 20 Sep 2021

This is an own goal. It makes any would be customer of France's A&D business, ultra cautious. Who wants to partner with someone who throws their dolly out when you scrap a late, over budget contract, as per the contract - in favour of a superior product that will actually create know how for your own citizens. They seem only to know stick, never carrot. They don't have the might to work this way. The US wont feel any impact from the twig they are being beaten with.

I've no idea who this Wolfgang bloke is but he did write for the FT for a while and seems to focus on Europe, so I'd suspect he's probably right. The UK was heavily attacked by France during the Brexit process and their security of their borders (paid for by the UK) is a joke. Why would we respect their turf, when they show us such contempt.

Hopefully the UK will not stand for this bullying.

transam · 20 Sep 2021

Exactly

tell macron to go and do one ( scoundrel)

transam · 21 Sep 2021

On the radio

this caper demonstrates ? A complete failure of the French intelligence services who did not have a scooby as to what was going on

blimey perhaps the Australians may be on receipt of a New Zealand type attack from the scoundrels in retaliation ?

fillyboy · 23 Sep 2021

AUKUS

Brigade77

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