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denso13 · 20 Sep 2021

andy11 said:
By 8th September the vaccines had killed 1645 people in Britain

No they didn't.

"Usage of the vaccines has increased over the course of the campaigns and as such, so has reporting of fatal events with a temporal association with vaccination however, this does not indicate a link between vaccination and the fatalities reported. Review of individual reports and patterns of reporting does not suggest the vaccines played a role in these deaths."

https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...irus-vaccine-summary-of-yellow-card-reporting

JP_ · 20 Sep 2021

andy11 said:
Can you (or whoever made the estimate) prove this?

Can you prove you disagree with it?
Links were posted from reputable sources.

JP_ · 20 Sep 2021

John the plumber said:
I’m guessing you voted for bojo in the last election then as it
Sounds like your talking about Bojo and his governments handling of Covid 19 there and I couldn’t have put that better myself regarding what he tells the nation about Covid 19

Stay in topic!

denso13 · 20 Sep 2021

andy11 said:
Can you (or whoever made the estimate) prove this?

For the uk...

https://assets.publishing.service.g.../Vaccine_surveillance_report_-_week_37_v2.pdf

ajohn · 20 Sep 2021

andy11 said:
By 8th September the vaccines had killed 1645 people in Britain and there had been 1,119,683 reported adverse reactions.

If you think that you can read that and make sense of it you have several loose screws in your head or think some people of all ages don't die daily.

andy11 said:
By the same token just because someone dies within 28 days of a positive covid test it doesn't mean that they died of covid.

The usual old chestnut that is completely wrong. Why is it that the 63day deaths are scarcely different. Do you think all people who die of covid / problems bought on by covid die in 28 days? If so your entirely wrong. I mean the extra 25 days should allow a lot more people who had covid fall down stairs or die in a car crash etc,

Your imbecilic ramblings are not of interest to most people so I sometimes wonder why people bother replying.

Eccles · 20 Sep 2021

Problem with all these so called vaccines is that the viruses keep mutating (variants they call them). It's the same reason why we keep getting colds and some are worse than others as you may have noticed. You are not getting the same cold as you had last time, it's just a new mutation. Many colds are also corona viruses so there is not a huge difference between them and Covid 19. One thing is for sure, we are now stuck with it and so called vaccines and face masks will not stop you from getting it as is now well known.

JohnD · 20 Sep 2021

andy11 said:
it's from the British Government

No it isn't.

denso13 · 20 Sep 2021

andy11 said:
Britain and there had been 1,119,683 reported adverse reactions

And some are;

Loose tooth
Gastrointestinal noises abnormal
Eyelid thickening
Teeth brittle
Eyelash changes
Flatulence
Haemorrhoids
Tongue rough
Tooth loss
No adverse event
Breast implant palpable
Hangover
Genital herpes
Gonorrhoea
Malaria
Syphilis
Tooth injury
Exposure to vaccinated person
Multiple fractures
Prescription drug used without a prescription
Ligament sprain
Exposure to extreme temperature
Electric shock
Fall
Pelvic fracture
Sunburn
Penis injury
Face crushing
Scratch
Spinal fracture
Sperm concentration
Drooling
Pregnancy on contraceptive
Premature ejaculation
Breast swelling
Penile size reduced
Sneezing
Snoring
Dandruff

https://assets.publishing.service.g...loads/attachment_data/file/1018450/Pfizer.pdf

IT Minion · 20 Sep 2021

Eccles said:
One thing is for sure, we are now stuck with it and so called vaccines and face masks will not stop you from getting it as is now well known.

Source? The vaccines are proving very effective at preventing death or serious illness. They aren't perfect but they're doing very very well.

Remind me how many cases we had three weeks ago and what the 7 day average of deaths is?

noseall · 20 Sep 2021

Eccles said:
so called

Lol. They are actually call vaccines.

Eccles · 20 Sep 2021

IT Minion said:
Source? The vaccines are proving very effective at preventing death or serious illness. They aren't perfect but they're doing very very well.

Remind me how many cases we had three weeks ago and what the 7 day average of deaths is?

7 day average is 141 deaths per the government - more than twice as many as a year ago, again according to the government's site. Not sure if that is a reliable "source" as they often lie to the population. Remember back last year we were told that the vaccine was 94% efficaceous by some expert, well that porker didn't last long did it?

IT Minion · 20 Sep 2021

Eccles said:
7 day average is 141 deaths per the government - more than twice as many as a year ago, again according to the government's site. Not sure if that is a reliable "source" as they often lie to the population. Remember back last year we were told that the vaccine was 94% efficaceous by some expert, well that porker didn't last long did it?

And the number of cases a year and three weeks ago was.... 1,150 or so compared to three weeks ago which was 34,500.

So with around 30x the cases we have twice the number of deaths. That's pretty outstanding, especially since most of those dying aren't vaccinated.

Vaccines work

Deleted member 18243 · 20 Sep 2021

denso13 said:
For the uk...

https://assets.publishing.service.g.../Vaccine_surveillance_report_-_week_37_v2.pdf

You've some explaining to do Dense-O. Your reply was to my question asking you to prove that the vaccine has saved 100,000 lives. That cannot possibly be proved one way or another, so you are talking b0llocks.

denso13 · 20 Sep 2021

andy11 said:
That cannot possibly be proved one way or another,

So you were playing silly games when you asked the question? That's covid deniers for you.

Deleted member 18243 · 20 Sep 2021

Captain Nemesis said:
Two questions for you.

1) Have you drilled down into the data to see how many of the people who suffered a reaction had underlying health conditions? Quite an important consideration when you think how skewed towards the elderly and those with underlying health conditions the vaccinations have been.

2) What point are you trying to make anyway by telling us that there is a fatal reaction in about 1 in 30,000 people?

1) No I haven't drilled down into the data as it's a load of irrelevant bullsh1t, but the deaths attributed to covid, like the deaths from the vaccine, are mostly of people in extreme old age and / or with underlying health conditions. Either way these people died from EXTREME OLD AGE AND / OR UNDERLYING HEALTH CONDITIONS. Covid is just a cold, change a couple of its letters and you'll see that.

2) There is no proof that the vaccine saved the lives of the 29,999 people who survived; they may well have survived without the vaccine. My point is that the 1 person who died after being vaccinated took the vaccine because of government pressure - he (or she) had the vaccine forced on him, and therefore if it is the case that the vaccine killed him...it is murder. He might still be alive had he not taken the vaccine. This is a good question and gets to the heart of the matter so thanks for asking it.

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