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I want to have the ability to run the house from my manual start diesel generator. Is it permissible to replace the 100 Amp switch in the consumer unit with the change over switch or must the C/O be placed before the CU? All are Wylex & I also have an isolator on the incoming feed.
Thanks in anticipation.
 
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I did it very simple, all I wanted to be from generator came from a consumer unit which plugged into a socket powered from main consumer unit or generator.

This means there is a time between mains and generator supplying so items like freezers have time to loose pressure before re-energising.
 
Is it permissible to replace the 100 Amp switch in the consumer unit with the change over switch
Yes - but only if that switch is from the same manufacturer as the consumer unit, and it has been specifically designed to fit into that consumer unit.
 
Yes - but only if that switch is from the same manufacturer as the consumer unit, and it has been specifically designed to fit into that consumer unit.
... and (although I suppose that someone is probably going to prove me wrong :) ) I would strongly suspect that no changeover switch that met those requirements would be available for any CU, wouldn't you?

It would also presumably have to be a 'centre off', or somesuch, switch, wouldn't it, in order to provide a guaranteed way of isolating the installation (from DNO supply or genny)?

Kind Regards, John
 
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Wylex do a solar C/O switch based on 4 single pole linked together just like their 'standard' double pole isolator. Accordingly I see no reason it should not be approved for their CU's
 
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Wylex do a solar C/O switch based on 4 single pole linked together just like their 'standard' double pole isolator. Accordingly I see no reason it should not be approved for their CU's
If it is designed/intended and tested in one of their CUs, then I assume you're right - as I said, I didn't doubt that someone would prove me wrong.

However, as I said, unless it has a 'centre off' position (which, judging by your description, seems unlikely), then it sounds as if a 'main switch' would also be required - hence 6 'ways' of the CU used up by 'the switches'!

Kind Regards, John
 
If it is designed/intended and tested in one of their CUs, then I assume you're right - as I said, I didn't doubt that someone would prove me wrong.

However, as I said, unless it has a 'centre off' position (which, judging by your description, seems unlikely), then it sounds as if a 'main switch' would also be required - hence 6 'ways' of the CU used up by 'the switches'!

Kind Regards, John
Actually 8 for solar to provide the isolation between mains and invertor.
 
It would also need an isolator, as no off position. Not only break before make, but a time delay is required so things like compressors in fridges have time for pressure to drop before being reconnected.

Two sockets and one plug seems far easier.
 
Far from being 'legal' but my father-in-law used to pull the DNO fuse and plug it into a similar fuse holder on his genny output line. 2 DNO fuse holders, 1 fuse. On a dairy farm when the power goes off, needs must
 
It would also need an isolator, as no off position.
I've made that point several times above!
Not only break before make, but a time delay is required so things like compressors in fridges have time for pressure to drop before being reconnected.
You probably need to tell that to those responsible for the 'fraction of a second' (or 'a second or three') power cuts we often get here!
Two sockets and one plug seems far easier.
That's what I now do (plus some loads, like 'standby lighting' and 'generator-only sockets, permanently wired to only the genny supply, and hence never used with DNO-supplied electricity. I originally had a changeover switch, but the only one I could get hold of was a massive cast iron job, which came to be ';getting in the way'!

Kind Regards, John
 
Far from being 'legal' but my father-in-law used to pull the DNO fuse and plug it into a similar fuse holder on his genny output line. 2 DNO fuse holders, 1 fuse. On a dairy farm when the power goes off, needs must
Actually quite a common arrangement and one which the leccy board of the old days seemed to understand. Two farms I used help to 'maintain' had exactly that and the DNO guy happily supplied the second farms pre-used main fuse holder.

But in a private house... oh no... a completely different matter.
 
It would also need an isolator, as no off position. Not only break before make, but a time delay is required so things like compressors in fridges have time for pressure to drop before being reconnected.

Two sockets and one plug seems far easier.
Fridge compressors are fine with a brief power drop, it’s power drops that last for extended times that can be problematic as the refrigerant slowly finds its way back down into places it doesn’t want to be when the compressor kicks back in. A couple seconds is fine.

I would much prefer to see a changeover switch, centre off, than a plug and socket.
 
Actually quite a common arrangement and one which the leccy board of the old days seemed to understand. Two farms I used help to 'maintain' had exactly that and the DNO guy happily supplied the second farms pre-used main fuse holder.

But in a private house... oh no... a completely different matter.
I do work on many farms, and many large dairy’s. Most three phase. All have changeover switches and either tractor driven generators or dedicated diesel sets. Advocating the use of swapping fuses is dangerous and non compliant. Just because one person understands doesn’t mean everyone will.
 

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