Unrealistic wish list for driveway cameras?

Safety First · 17 Oct 2021

A brief search of offerings online at likes of Amazon or Screwfix make me think my desired spec is missing something obvious as I can't find an obvious purchase.

I would like:
-Outdoor cameras, mains powered- I can route power cables to them easily.
-Sending data over wi-fi
- To a central, solid state store. I.e DVR but without noisy fan.

I.e I do not want my cameras AND their data being nicked, so no on-board SD cards.Nor do I want batteries to replace. Nor have to route data cables to the data store.

Is this (for some reason) an odd wishlist in home security camera set ups?
.....as I can't find much that fits the bill?

TIA.

Swwils · 17 Oct 2021

Yes it is odd because WiFi cannot handle decent data rates unless you spend significant sums.

Thus POE is the better and more common place choice.

RandomGrinch · 17 Oct 2021

Hi,

I may be wrong, but I think you're having problems because your search wants features of both domestic and professional systems.
External WiFi systems, tend to be domestic, have batteries, and connect to phone apps etc.
Professional systems with DVR's probably won't use a possibly insecure and patchy WiFi link.
Personally, I would go for a PoE system, as I don't feel a single data cable is any more difficult to run than a power cable

Safety First · 18 Oct 2021

Thanks. Am looking up PoE....

Scoop-20 · 18 Oct 2021

Would you not send the data to the cloud as opposed to a local SSD??

bernardgreen · 19 Oct 2021

RandomGrinch said:
I would go for a PoE system, as I don't feel a single data cable is any more difficult to run than a power cable

Running two cables side by side is as easy as running a single cable.

One cable is a pair taking a smooth DC supply to the camera, the other is a coax for analogue video signal from the camera.

Smooth DC will not affect adjacent cables or the signals they are carrying.

Scoop-20 said:
Would you not send the data to the cloud as opposed

On going costs and risk of the cloud being hacked, as has happened in the past. There is also the legal question as to whether the CCTV owner has the necessary control over the stored data that he or she put into the cloud storage,

Sally2000 · 19 Oct 2021

bernardgreen said:
Running two cables side by side is as easy as running a single cable.

One cable is a pair taking a smooth DC supply to the camera, the other is a coax for analogue video signal from the camera.

Smooth DC will not affect adjacent cables or the signals they are carrying.

But needs additional DC power units and mains sockets for the camera/s

JP_ · 19 Oct 2021

For a cheap and cheerful solution, I used Neos cams. They are wifi, powered by USB cables, and data is stored on the cloud. You get a little for free, or pay about £3 a month for more storage. Records in sections on 1 minute based on movement. The cameras are £25 each, plus external mount. They are designed for indoor use, but had mine running for a few years now with no problems.

https://shop.neos.co.uk/products/neos-smartcam

The app is easy to use.

App view

There's probably lots going against this sort of set up, but it's cheap and easy. Has night vision too, and you can set sensitivity and motion zones

bernardgreen · 19 Oct 2021

Sally2000 said:
But needs additional DC power units and mains sockets for the camera/s

One DC power supply module at or close to the recorder location and separate cables from that one unit to each of the cameras

RandomGrinch · 19 Oct 2021

bernardgreen said:
One DC power supply module at or close to the recorder location and separate cables from that one unit to each of the cameras

Yes, that's the same as a PoE system.
However, you also have the benefit of that single Cat6 cable sending control signals and receiving high bandwidth digital images.
One less cable to run and higher quality images

bernardgreen · 19 Oct 2021

The reason I would run a separate cable for the 12 volt DC supply is to enable the use of other 12 volt items such as PIR operated flood lights at or close to the location of the camera.

Sally2000 · 19 Oct 2021

Our PIR operated LED floodlights are all mains operated.

Scoop-20 · 14 Nov 2021

On going costs and risk of the cloud being hacked, as has happened in the past. There is also the legal question as to whether the CCTV owner has the necessary control over the stored data that he or she put into the cloud storage,[/QUOTE]

...just fire it up to your G-Drive. Lots of storage, google secure, and only you will have access

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