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Are the 9 deaths admitted by Denso and Noseall part of this 73 or additional to it?
No way of knowing. One is the yellow card scheme the other is taken from death certificates.
Are the 9 deaths admitted by Denso and Noseall part of this 73 or additional to it?
Andy, I honestly don't care if you have/want a vaccine or not. It's your choice and if I were in your shoes I wouldn't waste time defending it. But this is a nonsense argument. If every single death following a vaccine was directly caused by the vaccine, that would still be a tiny fraction of deaths caused by the virus itself.None of that answers my question John, which is: how many people has the vaccine killed directly
If the Yellow Card scheme is unreliable, were those 9 deaths not reported by the Yellow Card scheme?
Some people may well have developed complications and some of those may have caused death
Or polio, whooping cough, MMR, varicella (chicken pox), diptheria, tetanus, hepatitis (A and B), pneumococcal pneumonia, human papillomavirus (HPV), etc. I'll bet that most of the anti-vaxxers have had at least 3 or 4 of those, with the tetanus being the one that anyone in trade should have automatically. These people have the "advantage" of living in a world where many once debilitating and fatal diseases have been cured, so they probably never went to school with a kid (maybe in leg callipers) had been one of the "lucky ones" who'd survived polio, for example.Just like any other vaccine, but I haven't seen any complaints about the flu vaccine, for example, from the anti-vaxxers.
According to https://www.bhf.org.uk/informations...rus-and-your-health/astrazeneca-covid-vaccine (Updated 29 October 2021)
Blot clots caused by the vaccine have killed about 1 in 345,000 people.
In the UK, 145,000 people have died of Covid, which is 1 in 463 people.
So, covid is about 745 times deadlier than the vaccine.
yes they will, given timeThat last point is a specious comparison, as not everybody will catch covid
true but long covid affects the youngAlso, covid mainly kills the very old
the higher the percentage of vaccinated people, the lower the number of hospitalisations and the lower the risk if variantswhereas pro-vaxxers want everybody to have the vaccine.
how do you identify those?all the population you will be vaccinating many who don't need it
AFAIK a major problem with COVID-19 is that susceptibility is still not fully understood. I listened to an immunologist on radio a few months ago saying that it in addition to other factors such as age, obeisity and some diseases such as diabetes (all of which appear to increase susceptibility to COVID-19) it appears there is a possible link between certain blood groups and susceptibility to COVID-19 as well, with observations appearing to show that people with B and/or O blood groups were less likely to be COVID-19 in-patients, whilst critically ill COVID-19 patients with blood groups A and AB were more likely to require mechanical ventilation and prolonged intensive care in comparison. A study of severe COVID-19 patients also showed that those with blood group A had a higher risk of severe disease, while blood group O had a protective effect.yes they will, given time... not everybody will catch covid, whereas pro-vaxxers want everybody to have the vaccine.
true but long covid affects the youngAlso, covid mainly kills the very old, so if you vaccinate all the population you will be vaccinating many who don't need it. I wonder how many of those killed by the vaccine were not in the age group vulnerable to covid?
Compared with the previous month, self-reported long COVID was higher among young people aged 12 to 16 or 17 to 24 years
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopula...s/coronaviruscovid19latestinsights/infections
AFAIK a major problem with COVID-19 is that susceptibility is still not fully understood.
AFAIK a major problem with COVID-19 is that susceptibility is still not fully understood. I listened to an immunologist on radio a few months etcetc
It's what we used to call a "cold".
Agreed. You might as well call it the "lurgy". BTW @andy11, that "cold" killed a former colleague of mine last year. He was 37, athletic, not overweight, a rugby player and not the sort of person you'd expect to die of COVID-19. I'm sure his missus (a nurse) would give you a piece of her mind of you said that within earshotyou are a shameless troll posting transparent lies.