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So do I. Antivaxxers dismiss anything which doesn't suit their agenda, wherever it comes from.

I don't actually know where they get their beliefs from as all data seems to be made up.

Honestly, its both sides in equal measure.
 
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There are two booster centres not far from here from what I could see they was no one going into them ? Either every one has had the booster or people are not interested ?

just my observation yesterday
 
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Honestly, its both sides in equal measure.

Not really. What the anti lot forget is covid and handling similar in modern times has it's unknown factors each time steps are taken to handle it. Success isn't guaranteed until it's achieved. Various forms of lockdowns are an illustration of that. One aspect was how well the public would stick to them. The other how extensive they needed to be, circuit breakers etc, Several ideas tried some of which didn't work. They now have a much clearer idea about that hence the controls that are currently in force. It's enough to cause rates to fall before they become too serious to handle. New virus - they now have more idea what that means and probably still need longer to be sure.

The vaccines are no different. The only thing that was unusual about those is the time it took to find something to give. The trial showed lack of harm to people other than what could be expected even from other vaccines. Then they start vaccinating oldest first. That includes a lot of frail people that are also likely to benefit from it. As always a certain amount of learning every time they do anything about covid. For various reason the age range who can be vaccinated has been extended - they will learn how effective that is over time. What people have been offered has also changed. As they said right from the start without explaining why - vaccines, as many as possible. Md is being rolled out now. Azer's get a Pf booster. All more learning. The need for boosters has been shown in other countries. Ages probably have as well. Maybe not but the only way to find out is to do it.

Omicron is another learning experience. Others may crop up. In some respects there is nothing they can do about that other than reduce opportunities.
 
You are 'out of the box' for one post only!

The anti-vaxxers clearly had/have a freely available means to avoid it. They chose the option potential option of serious illness with the risk of death, plus the problems they inflict on the other more sensible members of society - why might they be deserving of any sympathy?
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There are two booster centres not far from here from what I could see they was no one going into them ? Either every one has had the booster or people are not interested ?

just my observation yesterday

Have you come across much in the lines of explaining why people should go get their boosters? Could it be because the people who talk the talk are more used to just telling people what to do?

Sound like the law in Amsterdam is breaking down - anti any restrictions in a rather big way. Some politicians following the herd.
 
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