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that's got to be the highlight of the year for me so far!

any other contenders for the plumber of the year, feel free to post any pictures here at diynot.com.

i'm sure there are health issues here John, particularly as you have children.

Thanks for all your kind advice. I think I might ring the council tomorrow and ask them. Even if i did get a £500 fine its still cheaper than chucking youre money away on a plumber who ****es in your sink, ive seen rogue traders!!

Yes, i think its part p - I installed a circuit breaker by the other fuses.

Oh no.....now he's going to wind us up about the electrics.

BTW if you have such a low opinion of plumbers, how come you're posting here asking for advice. I may occasinally p**s in a sink but even in my most deepest darkest drunkenest take my brain out of my head for a day moments I would never commit the gaffes that you have. Wor lass knows more about plumbing than you do and she only answers the phone for me. As Softus said.....To**er.

john_nicholls said:

I may of done some things wrong, but at least Im trying, not some lazy ponce on the dole sitting at home all day.

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Please clarify - are you saying that all lazy people are on the dole, or that all lazy people are ponces, or that everyone on the dole is a ponce, or that everyone who's on the dole sits at home all day, or that everyone who sits at home all day is a ponce, or what?

john_nicholls said:

Yes, i think its part p - I installed a circuit breaker by the other fuses.

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Do you have the slightest inkling what Part P is, and what it obliges you to do?

FYI, if you've installed a new circuit for the shower and not notified your LABC then you've broken the law. Increasingly it seems that you're just a liability, both to your own family and to whoever eventually buys your house.

john_nicholls said:

Thanks for all your kind advice. I think I might ring the council tomorrow and ask them. Even if i did get a £500 fine its still cheaper than chucking youre money away on a plumber who p****s in your sink, ive seen rogue traders!!

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I was gonna advise you what to do, but after you just tarred all plumbers with the same brush as quoted above you can stick it!

Keep it as it is, ring the council, get them round, see what happens

I'm saying that some poeple are lazy ponces on the dole. Dont know about the rest of it.

I didnt put a new circuit in so I'm not breaking the law. There was a 10mm cable for the electric shower downsairs so I used that up to the loft and changed the shower downstairs for a normal one.

I dont have a low opinion of plumbers, i just think they charge too much and you dot know who you can trust and who you cant.

I asked on here cos I thought it was a diy forum!

I don't really know why i'm posting, as it's all been said, but this illusion of Plumbers being a rip off is pure fantasy. Sure, there will be some that charge a high rate, but I bet if you did a survey of rates charged by other tradesmen (Sparks, platerers etc) then there wouldn't be much difference.

Rogue traders is there for a reason...to weedle out the ROGUE traders, not every plumber in the land

John,

Seriously mate, pay a professional to come and look at it. I have just had my bathroom moved about a bit by a corgi plumber, as I did not trust myself to not balls it up royally. He spent 6 hours doing the job and charged me £130. I am sure that you will agree that this is not unreasonable.

As for the electrical work you have done, you really need to get that checked out and certified. The problem you have is that you are making your house unsaleable as you do not have the neccessary paperwork to back up the improvements you are doing.

One question is nagging in my mind. Did you get planning permission to convert the loft? If not, for Gods sake, do not speak to the council, otherwise you might be in for an even costlier excercise, when they make you re-instate it to a loft as you haven't fully complied with building regs. i.e. your stairs to the loft have to be a certain width etc etc.

I know that I am a newbie on here, but I have been through all the hassle of house improvements (doing a lot of it myself, but knowing when to "outsource" the work).

Oh no, I already rang the council first thing this morning. What permission do I need for the loft then?

Are the fines bigger for planning permission then?

You must have two heads, it beggars belief that any one can be that
stupid with only the one!!!!!!!!!!

I'm sorry but this has got to be a wind up. Can one of the moderators/admin people not trace this guy's IP for his posts - I bet we'll find it is another regular user just taking the mick.

I'm saying this because I cannot believe there is anyone in this world who is so inept, stupid, ignorant and just damn thick to do all this without having any idea of the world around them.

John Nicholls, who dressed you this morning?!

john_nicholls said:

I'm saying that some poeple are lazy ponces on the dole. Dont know about the rest of it.

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So, you seem to be saying that anyone who is a ponce, and who is on the dole, is lazy because they sit at home all day. What was the sample size for the survey that you must have carried out in order to reach this conclusion? And if you know where all the ponces are that the government admits to having mislaid, that would be useful information.

I didnt put a new circuit in so I'm not breaking the law. There was a 10mm cable for the electric shower downsairs so I used that up to the loft...

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These two statements are conflicting, and expose just how appallingly scant your knowledge of the Building Regulations is.

You claim to have installed a new fixed electrical circuit into the loft. You might think you haven't, but you have. This work required (past tense) notification to the LABC, unless it was installed by a self-certifying electrician, which you are clearly not, and BCO inspection of the work when done, which would have concluded in the LABC certification that you clearly don't have.

You claim to have installed a toilet into the loft - this required (past tense) notification of the work, and BCO inspection of the work when done, which would have concluded in the LABC certification that you clearly don't have.

You appear to have made an illegal and grossly unhealthy modification to the drainage system, and you may be discharging effluent into a public rainwater system. This renders you liable to prosecution - something which I would wholly endorse.

john_nicholls said:

I dont have a low opinion of plumbers, i just think they charge too much...

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You say that you think plumbers charge too much, but you've previously said that you don't know how much we charge. You've made a stupid guess that it's £100 per hour, and then criticised an entire trade on the basis of that stupid guess.

...and you dot know who you can trust and who you cant.

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There's an old adage which states that a fool and his money are easily parted. I'd like to believe that there's a suitable adage for your particular brand of stupidity, but I can't think of one. It's quite possible that you're unique.

john_nicholls said:

I asked on here cos I thought it was a diy forum!

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You asked questions, and you've been given the correct answers. If you don't like what you hear then that's a matter for you - you're completely free to b*gger off at any time you like, and the only thing that people here will miss is the exquisite pain of cramp in their sides and the sting of the salty tears of mirth on their cheeks.

You may regard what follows as an insult, but I don't, because there is no other suitable word for you other than t*sser.

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There was a 10mm cable for the electric shower downsairs so I used that up to the loft and changed the shower downstairs for a normal one.

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Are both on separate supply cables and protected with an RCD

As stated you will not be able to sell your property without a building regs certificate