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I have had a gas fire in the living room since purchasing the property quite a few years ago and I've had it certified every year. The chimney where the fire is sited has a half round cylinder (similar in appearance to a rounded roof tile) placed across the top. Although it was never a problem before, this time, the corgi engineer inspecting it said that the chimney terminal, meaning the bit at the top, was not within the regulations. If the rounded bit was removed then it would be OK. I phoned Corgi and they said they cannot say whether the engineer was correct or not! Can anyone shed any light on what the regulations say? Can the dozen or so other engineers not have noticed this?
 
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At worst as long as it passes all the safety tests it would be classified as Not to Current Standards
 
Can the dozen or so other engineers not have noticed this?

Fraid they all did! I'd assume the liner wasn't sealed at the top as well and call it At Risk - and tell you you couldn't use it.

Edit - WRONG - doesn't need a liner for an ordinary fire! :rolleyes:
 
ChrisR said:
Can the dozen or so other engineers not have noticed this?

Fraid they all did! I'd assume the liner wasn't sealed at the top as well and call it At Risk - and tell you you couldn't use it.

It does happen alot, it shouldnt but it does
 
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There are two terminals that match your description. One is recommended and one isn`t and the difference is not a lot, which can be difficult to see from the ground. Perhaps the other dozen people where right and the guy this time is mistaken.

Chrisr what makes you think the chimney is lined

EDIT. There is 4 types two allowed two not
 
I was assuming it wasn't!
I thought all liners had to have metal flattop thingies - you got me diving for a book now :evil:
 
Describes it as a roof tile so assuming it`s terracotta.. Agree all liners need terminals but terminals dont need liners
 
Garn I thought I'd read back boiler - got them on the brain. So no liner needed.
Looked in the book (and found there are now clay terminals for liners, btw).
It also says, Any non proprietary terminal shall accept a 6mm ball but not a 16mm ball. Bit of an odd rule, that one. So if it's a bit of roof tile it won't do.
Back to NCS then, as long as it isn't spilling and it passes a flue flow test.
 
Terminals can be a bloody nightmare always changing. The size thing is for not letting small birds in but still not too small that they get blocked b,, the one that makes me wonder is vents they are 6mm ball and 10mm ball even in internal walls.
 
well put it this way, at least the gas engineer look at the terminal and found it was not in keeping with the regs.

must admit i just had a sneaky peek at my viper book :rolleyes:
 
Point is that it's been in situ for years and was almost certainly compliant with old regs. Just cos it isnt compliant with new regs doesnt matter a fig.

Hope this helps!

Scruffle
 
namsag said:
Describes it as a roof tile so assuming it`s terracotta.. Agree all liners need terminals but terminals dont need liners

Well yes, it is a little difficult to see exactly what type it is from ground level especially for someone who doesn't know what to look for - but it does look like a terracotta fitment. Don't know anything about liners, although the gas fire is always disconnected and the fireplace properly cleaned out and the backplate re-sealed - as it was this time. It is a small job to remove the cowl, but does require some nerve to get up there! - but seeing some comments here it may not even be necessary.
 

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