Syphon vs Flapper Valve

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I wonder if anyone could advise me.

I need to replace my toilet fittings, because my toilet does not flush properly. The water has no forcefulness to it when I flush (i.e. comes out very slow) and therefore doesn't remove all the solid mater/toilet paper in the bowl the first time. I also noticed that the front of the bowl just under the rim doesn't even get wet. I have a feeling I need to replace the syphon due to wear and tear. I bought both a new syphon and a flapper valve set (which also includes a float valve and push button flush), but can't decide which one will be best for my toilet.

Any opinions? :confused:
 
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from what i read on here syphon is best.

flapper valves leak and when they start to do this cistern is always being filled because of the consatnt flow, sypon set costs about £10, so presumably is also cheaper
 
Overall a syphon is best. As breezer says, it is more reliable. Plus a pushbutton on a toilet designed for a lever looks a bit odd from the few I have seen.

However flapper valves do have the potential to give a slightly more powerful flush.

If it were me, I would fit the syphon.
 
Thanks for the advice. Fitted a new syphon, but seems to make no difference. :mad: Think I will put up with it, because it took me ages doing that job. The new rubber doughnut wouldn't fit between the cistern and bowl properly. Kept taking it on and off with no luck. In the end just had to put up with the small gap in between the two.
 
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heelllooo huggybear

is the water level high enough to make a seal
in the syphon :oops: :oops:
 
Hello Big-All.

Yep there's plenty of water in there. I set it to the maximum possible before the water starts flowing down the overflow. Toilet is about 15 years old, so I'd imagine it must be a 9 litre flush.
 
I would have gone with the flapper. I don't have any problems with them and the force is always greater than a syphon. You can also control the amount of water they deliver. Short press for quick flush or hold down for the full monty.
 
Wish I did go for the valve now. :evil: But I ain't taking that damn toilet apart again. Maybe when it needs it in another 15 years time again. :LOL:
 
Something in plumbing lasting fifteen years !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Something in plumbing lasting fifteen years

Nothing unusual in that.

Anyone who thinks a flapper is a satisfactory solution does not understand failsafe operation.
 

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