Anyone else cold today? Pumping concrete is too easy...

[noseall]

I was sat on the digger freezing all morning and then had to stand and watch whilst 7m³ was pumped into our trenches in about 35 mins.

Ho hum!

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[noseall]

Oh and this is especialy for Norcs.....

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[catlad]

I think you would have to add a few zero's to your cubic meters to get norcon's attention.

 

[noseall]

I think you would have to add a few zero's to your cubic meters to get norcon's attention.

He would have the public believe that it is simpler to use an enormous digger or dumper to move concrete in a domestic situation like the above.

Hilarious when you think the garage opening is only 1.8m square and that there are trenches criss-crossing which would collapse in if you farted on them!

 

[JohnD]

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Typical builders, drinking tea all day.

 

[Norcon]

Nose has 2 men standing scratching themselves plus himself and a whole morning wasted.
Says it all.

 

[noseall]

Nose has 2 men standing scratching themselves plus himself and a whole morning wasted.
Says it all.

The guys showed up at 2:30. We had it done easily and were home for 4:00 pm.

I would never have booked concrete so late prior to using the pump guys.

It means now that I can get all of my day in AND get foundations poured last thing. Great.

We all stand around because there is little to do until they actually start pumping The guys wearing the high vis stuff are the concrete operators. All we have to do is lightly tamp the top.

Soooo easy.
Stick to striking shutter and making tea Norcs.

 

[noseall]

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Typical builders, drinking tea all day.

That's a concrete operator. We have one drink at 10:00 am another at 1:00pm.

 

[Norcon]

I've never seen that pump tbh. Its a putszmeister I think.

When we do line pumping a boom pump arrives with one driver.
And muggins has to help with humping the pipes. But its less pipes as the boom makes the first stretch.
But costs a lot more.

Yes we're probably doing something wrong over here.

 

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And for anyone who is interested.......

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[limerockconstruction]

Mate - what are the benefits of putting the insulation under the concrete? A lot of our spec's recently have been on top of the concrete, with the screed on top of that?

 

[noseall]

Mate - what are the benefits of putting the insulation under the concrete? A lot of our spec's recently have been on top of the concrete, with the screed on top of that?

We only fit insulation above the concrete, i.e. directly beneath the screed when the customer is fitting UFH.

The benefits are minimal as are the disadvantages. Many would argue things like 'thermal mass' etc, but I'm not convinced. For instance, the floor will have a similar thermal mass as the walls, in that the mass of the concrete will be warmed in a similar way to the inner leaf of the walls, thus retain heat for longer etc.

We do it largely from a practical point of view whereby you haven't got a deep trough to deal with the whole time you are constructing the building and it gets the insulation out of the way.

 

[wakey77]

After years of barrowing and mixing and generally creating unnessercary graft for me and the lads i decided to use a pump for the extension on the back of my house the reason being my only access is through the utility room and the thought of bucketing concrete at this stage in my life is not a good plan at all lol
anyway after using the pump once il never look back
why struggle and in the long run you save money on labour and time.
Tidy looking job there noseall, I personally cant see it makes a difference where you put the insulation as long as its in.

 

[noseall]

After years of barrowing and mixing and generally creating unnessercary graft for me and the lads i decided to use a pump.........after using the pump once il never look back
why struggle and in the long run you save money on labour and time.

True.
however, it was never always plain sailing.

Until Kingscroft came along we used to have to arrange the pump and arrange the concrete separately. Nightmare! One could make it one day and not the other and vice versa. Couple this with the fact that my previous conc supplier was a call centre so you were unlikely to speak to the same bloke when calling back!!!

Then came my man there along with his own pump and crew. Heaven

Tidy looking job there noseall,

ALL my jobs get stoned-up. I refuse to work in mud and brick ends. It all helps when trestling up.

I personally cant see it makes a difference where you put the insulation as long as its in.

Probably not noticeable short term. I'm sure there is a calculation somewhere that a thermal boffin could dig up that shows a nice graph or pie chart about thermal wastage and stuff, over the lifetime of a building.

 

[limerockconstruction]

Mate - what are the benefits of putting the insulation under the concrete? A lot of our spec's recently have been on top of the concrete, with the screed on top of that?

We only fit insulation above the concrete, i.e. directly beneath the screed when the customer is fitting UFH.

The benefits are minimal as are the disadvantages. Many would argue things like 'thermal mass' etc, but I'm not convinced. For instance, the floor will have a similar thermal mass as the walls, in that the mass of the concrete will be warmed in a similar way to the inner leaf of the walls, thus retain heat for longer etc.

We do it largely from a practical point of view whereby you haven't got a deep trough to deal with the whole time you are constructing the building and it gets the insulation out of the way.

Thanks - always interested in others methodology. I like the thought of the smaller step whilst you're wroking! How far down do you run your cavity insulation?